Ep.309 – Paul McCartney is dead, or is he???

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Podcast with Blake Mosley, James Cod, and Amanda Dolan.

Hey, everybody. Welcome. No, back up. Back up the train. It's me. It's me. It's Jac. And welcome back to the Windbirds Fail Music speaks podcast where we fight depression with your power music and a little bit know. Oops, I did it again. Like Britney Spears, but just like Brittany. Just like Britney. Right? Yeah. Oops, I did it again. Amanda, you got something to add? Oh, no.

I was just thinking that kind of goes along with what we're talking about today in a weird way.

Yeah. It all comes back around, and I.

Did not plan y'all, so. Okay. I'm your professional handicapped host, James Cox, and I know I am not divorcing schedule from the Muppets. Do we need to change that? Because I feel like I'm telling people.

All these years, maybe we can update it. Maybe I'll work on some kind of update. I like Amanda's. It's fresh. It's something new. We've been working off these for a while. Maybe we can update.

But, I mean, I feel like Tony Romo. You do?

There's no denying that.

Absolutely.

With that smile.

So we can use that in our new intro, I guess, because we need to create one for you. But go ahead and let's continue the old fashioned intro for Blake.

Yeah. Who am I? You may be wondering, and I ask myself that quite often, especially when it comes to conspiracy theories. I question everything, and we're going to get into that today. But I'm commonly referred to as the loudest guy in the room, but only when I'm playing the drums. And if you're wondering, I still don't know who you are, I'll tell you, I'm your endless source of useless music knowledge. My name is Blake Mosely, aka Brosely, aka emo beemo, aka tinfoil hat.

Hold on. Slow down. You can't have that many names. Come on now. I don't even have that many names.

Timothy is what I'm going by today.

I like that.

Add that in the new intro, buddy. We got you.

Timothy is my first name. For those of you who don't know.

You'Re a middle name goer buyer.

I am a middle name goer buyer. Thanks, mom and dad. I am a first name for that. Yeah. So my dad went by, his name was Tim, so everybody called him Tim. They didn't want me to also go by Tim, Timmy or whatever. So they call me Blake. So, yes, I also go by my middle name. But today I do like blatant hat.

Timmy.

I do like blatant.

It gets the job.

It does. And then there's me, Amanda Dolan. I may not know the name of the song, the artist, or the album like the other guys here, but chances are I will sing along loudly, proudly, and poorly. Just ask my kids. They will also tell you that I'm not a regular mom. I am a paranoid mom.

You know what I am going to ask your kids that. I'm going to be like, hey, we knew all these things. Does it all check out? Tell us.

Right?

No, you're not allowed to talk to my children. None of you, ever.

What have we told? We're all super skeptic today, right? I think that's the theme of today's.

Episode, is, like, trust. I'm a little afraid of what my kids would tell you about me. They'd tell you all my secrets. They would tell you lies. They would tell you I'm not really a human, that I'm some sort of.

Like, reptilian lizard people.

I'm a lizard person that lives, actually, I typically live under the Denver airport. Under the Denver airport. Or I hang out with the birds who are actually robots, drones. They're not real.

They're not real. Funny you should say that. So I love the last podcast on the left. I've been listening to them for years, and right now, actually, I think they just finished it. But it is a very small series on David Icke, the guy who basically came up with the reptilian conspiracy theories or whatever. And it's been very interesting. And I promise this was not planned because I came across this conspiracy theory a while ago, and I had it in my little notes app. On my phone for episode ideas eventually. And I was like, oh, this will be a fun one to do. And then I did another deep dive into the world of conspiracy theories today, thanks to that last podcast on the left.

Need to.

I need to preface. Actually, you know what we'll preface when we get there. James, why don't you tell us what you've been up to, budy? How are you guys doing? We're going to save all the tinfoil hat stuff for just a minute. When we finally get into it.

I'm doing okay.

All right, now let's get into it, and let's talk about things that are fake. I'm just kidding.

God. Okay, so you're just like, what's his name on the Nicaragua King show. You're like somebody. I don't know, but that makes a lot. You look like them, too. But if I remember the name, I'm going to shut it. So, Amanda, so we're going to test your means of knowledge here a little bit, okay?

Oh, no.

Foo fighters. You've heard of them? Obviously. Foo fighters. Dave Grohl. Okay, so quiz time for you. What album does he dislike of his? The worst. Like his number one least favorite album. Do you know, Blake, have I stumped?

Okay.

It'S a Foo Fighters album.

Okay.

I was going to say, because I was like, is it a nirvana album? No, Nirvana, like, we're going to have.

It's the Foo Fighters, one of the records. Which one is it?

Is it the whole album or is it just a song?

The whole album. He does not like the album that he made.

Is it their first album? I don't even know. I'm having to look up the name of albums.

Right.

To just. I'm just going to look up. Not. I'm not doing. Other than names of albums.

Names of albums. Yeah. And I just give you a big hint earlier when I said he made.

Okay, is it just the debut album, Foo Fighters?

Yes, it is. Yeah.

That was what I was going to say.

And the reason why I brought it up, because I finally got it. You all.

Yes.

Because I've been wanting this forever in a day, and it's so hard to.

That's a great one.

So hard to come by. But yes, my question, he does not like this album.

Okay. It was really just an experiment. It wasn't intended to be an album.

Right. And he did the drums, cover drums, bass. And he sang on this. He did it all by himself without any help.

So here's my question about that, because. All right, so my understanding Foo fighters was and still is technically a super group of sorts. Right? You have Dave Grohl from Nirvana. You also have Pat Smear, who was also in Nirvana Germs.

Right?

And then you had the bassist and the drummer for sunny day real estate that were initially in the Foo Fighters.

Amanda like, yeah.

Amanda's like, okay, I'm reading things. It's interesting, but we'll get there in a minute.

She's got the red yarn, like, connecting it. All right. I always heard that Dave Grohl was not satisfied with the drumming on those, which is why he went back and rerecorded all the drums for the color and the shape himself.

Oh, that's him. Okay.

That's him. And Taylor Hawkins came along after the color and the shape came out.

He did not.

The drums on that.

And which album was after color and shape?

So color in the shape, because color in the shape, there is nothing left to lose.

Okay?

The album with Learn to Fly was the first album that had Taylor Hawkins got on it. The original drums had the guy from sunny Day real estate. And then Dave Grohl recorded the drums for Color in the shape. And then finally Taylor Hawkins came around in 1999. There's nothing left to it now. Fun fact, Taylor Hawkins is in the music videos for my Hero and Everlong, which was off of the color and the shape, but he did not play the drums on the tracks. He was in the band, but he did not provide the drumming tracks for those.

Right.

Take that to your local brewery for your musical trivia night, or you can take me and I will win you a lot of free beer.

Yes. That is what we all may. I would like to read the last sentence. Yes. Sentence. Of the Foo Fighters, like biography or whatever, on Apple Music.

Okay.

So whether building their 2014 album Sonic highways around an HBO music history series or collaborating with legends like Paul McCartney, the Foo fighters are the sturdy connective tissue between the classic rock era and the modern age.

There you go.

You know what?

That.

Which is funny, because Paul McCartney is dead.

It's dead, but not yet because I got a few more things to show you.

Is he with, like, Avril Levine dead? Is that.

I think. I think him. Avril Levine. Elvis is definitely dead. I think Tupac is alive. I think Biggie is dead. And Kurt Cobain did not kill himself. And that's where I'll leave it.

We are on the same page with that one. I am curious. Is Britney Spears alive or dead?

I think she's alive. I think that's her. I think that's been her. We actually covered Britney Spears. We did, like, a two part on Britney Spears a couple of years ago and kind of talked about, know, the really sad story behind her.

Funny thing about that is. Okay, so we did two episodes. Me, Blake, two parter.

Yeah.

And that's our most listened episodes ever, which is great, because everybody loves Brittany. I mean, I love Brittany.

We do. She's great. She and I are. She's younger than I am, but not much. But we both have struggled with mental health stuff, and I'm intrigued by her and how she shows up in a lot of places and the judgment that is passed because of her mental health and the assumptions that we make about her. But, yeah, I know that's another sort of theory out there, is that it's not really her.

Right.

I've seen everything from people showing the spacing of her teeth and moles and the way cameras are set up when she's recording dancing.

See, that's what they did to average Levine. And I still think that's. I don't know if that's the real winner. I don't know about her. I mean, she's kind of like. But it doesn't make sense.

I don't know.

One more thing before we move on. You've heard of Black Sabbath? You all right? Black Sabbath was the great metal band who. No. You never heard of it?

What?

Trust no one.

No, definitely not the Osbournes. Right? We don't trust.

No.

You talk about the reality tv star Ozzy Osborne.

Yeah. We wouldn't trust him for anything. Right.

With his talk show host wife, Sharon Osborne.

I would kind of trust him. But not his wife. But that's near here or there.

I like Sharon.

I trust them both all the way. They are amazing. Please love us.

Oh, yeah, please. Come on.

I would love to talk to Ozzy Osborne.

Yeah.

But their guitarist, Zach Wild, I'm a big fan of. I got multi albums by him. He has a band called Zach Sabbath. Like a tribute.

That's right.

Tribute band to Ozzy. And he came up with one called Vertigo last year, covered a black Sabbath first album, Black Sabbath. This time he released an album just called the Black Sabbath. It's called Doom Forever and forever doomed once. That is the second album to full, and the other side is the third album in full.

Nice.

So I guess he's going to release all of them chronologically ordered. But it takes so long for him to do this side project. But I have a feeling he'll release more in a timely manner because I don't know if you saw it. But Izzy Osborne is still not doing very good. Still.

Him and Mick Mars, their health has just declined so much, especially Mick. But it has been for like 20 years, at least. And you're kind of like, man, I'm surprised they made it this long.

Right?

Crazy.

I feel like it's been a minute since I watched the Osborne's tv show. I don't even remember when it came out. In fact, we're going to do some of the quick googles, maybe years. Yes, it was a number of years ago. Quite a long time ago. Interesting. He's only 75, but I feel like during, when he was on the Osborne's, whatever, that show, that he was in worse shape than he is now.

Yeah. I don't know if that was medication.

That most likely is. Yeah. Because medication will do some strange things to you, even though we'll have to do.

I mean, and I think it needs to be a deep dive into not.

Just great history behind not only Black Sabbath, that definitely needs to be a two parter, because we have to cover Black Sabbath, because that in itself is an amazing story. Ozzy's solo career is an amazing story. And then his return to Black Sabbath after all that time is just, oh, man, it's great.

Speaking of, do we not also think that Sharon and her family and all of that is an interesting part of his. Oh, yeah, definitely his story, as there's. I don't know. There's so many things that we could talk about.

Right.

And I think that Ivy is the only remaining. Well, I would say remaining musician that has bit off the head of a dove. And a.

True.

Yes, it is true. That happened. That actually happened.

I know, but I feel like there was something else, like, weird about it. I don't know. We need to. Well, I need more.

The bat issue, it was thrown on stage while he was performing live. Right, Blake? And he thought that was a plastic bat.

Okay, so then it was not like he brought it on stage.

It was thrown on stage with him, like, random fan.

The dove story, if we've got a minute. The dove story. He goes to sit down with some record executives talking about. This is during his solo. You know, he goes in there to try to meet. And they kept telling him, like, Ozzy, you got to play nice. Like, you have to play by the rules. Please don't do anything outlandish. And so they take in this dove as a sign of peace, to show, like, I come in peace. I'm not a bad guy.

I'm not a crazy.

And he sits down in the lap of one of the ladies that's in this record executive producer or something.

Yeah, big time.

Sits down big time and sits down in her lap as he's holding the dove and he's cradling it. And there's photos of a. And then all of a sudden, Trump, he just bites the head off of the dove and spits it out. And then he's got blood down his.

There's a picture of mouth. There's a picture document.

Yeah.

Anybody's out there, go look at the picture.

It's great.

Frightening, too.

Yeah. The Osbornes came out in 2002, more than 20 years old now.

I thought it was crap out of it.

Yes.

And they're like, fight with their neighbors.

I remember also, did you all know that. What's the Kelly Osborne? She has a sister.

She did not want to be on the show.

Ozzy has two daughters. About that.

Amy, was that her name?

I have no idea, but she did.

Not want to be on the show. I forgot there was another Osborne child.

I think they said that Jack and Kelly, because they were the most viewed, but I think that she didn't want to be a part of the show. So if she set up her quarters in the backyard or.

I don't know, but, yeah, Amy is her name.

Okay.

Amy.

And I have no idea. I have no idea what she looks like. I don't know. They do have a podcast.

One of my favorite things about the Osbornes, though, real quick, before we get into Osborne has been known to date a lot of musicians and things like that. Her dad being one of the biggest rock icons that's ever been.

Right, right.

So my favorite episode of the Osbornes is when she was dating Burt McCracken from the used.

Okay.

And so this is like, when the used, they were just starting out. They hadn't gotten super big. They were kind of on MTV a little bit, but they're playing warp tour or whatever, and that's how they. Then, you know, she brings him to the house, and Burt McCracken, especially back then, is just the grossest, dingiest looking guy. And, like, his hair is all long, but it's, like, very unkempt and greasy looking. His clothes look really disgusting, and he's acting all weird or whatever. But I was a massive fan of the. It was. It was so awesome to see the singer of one of my favorite bands on this reality show dating Kelly Osborne.

And I think she's with Sid Wilson from Slipknot now. Right? They got a kid.

Yeah. I think they are married. Children together from Slipknot.

Yeah, I know they had a child, but I didn't know that they were married.

I think they're married. Yeah, I think they got married. Which, by the way, another slipknot update. We talk about this every so often. So we discussed Jay Weinberg being kicked out of slipknot, right?

Yeah.

Long time ago. Really sad. Like, you know, phenomenal drummer. Amanda, if you didn't know Jay Weinberg, former drummer of Slipknot, he's played with a bunch of different bands and stuff. His dad, I can't think of his name, but plays drums for Bruce Springsteen.

Really?

Yes.

Max Weinberg, maybe.

Max Weinberg.

Max Weinberg, yeah.

So funny story. Yeah.

You got.

Bruce Springsteen's drummer has a kid who played drums in Slipknot. But anyway, now he got kicked out of Slipknot, but he is now playing with infectious grooves. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that band.

I heard he's playing with suicidal tendencies.

So it's the singer from suicidal tendencies. That's his side project. Oh, man. What's his name? He plays bass in Metallica now.

Robert Trujill.

Robert Trujillo, yeah. Who used to be in suicidal tendencies, but now he's doing this. He's with Metallica, but he does this side project with the singer from suicidal tendencies, and now Jay Weinberg is playing with them. So it all comes back around. So a lot of theories that the ex drummer from Sepultura is going to be the next drummer for Slipknot. So we'll see how that goes. Anyway. All right. Because now, the former drummer of suicidal, it's one big ring. Anyway, Amanda's like, all conspiracy. It's connected.

And Amanda's like, I need to. Yo, I really am going to have to go find some yarn.

Where's Waldo board.

I may have to take the pictures off of my bulletin board down and start.

Yeah, it's all connected.

It's all connected.

Everything is a conspiracy.

And I bet you she's like. She's like, that's a lot of useless knowledge that I just got.

Useless music knowledge. This is what I do. This is me.

It has come in handy a couple of times. I don't remember what, but somebody said something. I was like, did you know? And then I had something clever and.

They'Re like, holy crap.

You're welcome.

Look at me.

I was thinking it was like something was wrong with me, right? Like, I couldn't pay attention in school because I was thinking about music trivia.

If you want a free beer. You can hit me up.

I'll be on your team.

There you go.

Yes, I have weird knowledge about other things. Not music. Like, do you want to know about plants? I can tell you all about plants and how much light they need and how to feed them and the acidity of the soil. Do you want to know about baking? And do you want to add more flour or butter? Do you want your butter melted or room temperature for your cookies? Tell you all about those things.

I'll hit you up.

I want to know those, because here's a little bit of knowledge. Baking powder puff, baking soda spread.

Okay. All right.

There you go.

We're learning. We're learning. We're getting it together here.

Okay. Cool.

There you go.

Well, hey, why don't we take a second before we transition into our main topic today, I want to make something really clear. The topic of conspiracy theories, especially as of late, can be a very controversial subject. I want everybody to know that while I do find conspiracy theories very interesting, and I may find myself on some YouTube rabbit holes on some very interesting topics, I do not consider myself a conspiracy theorist. So let's just make that really clear. I like fun conspiracies. Like Paul McCartney is dead. Like, Avril Levine was replaced by a stand in years ago. Things like that are really funny. Tupac is alive. I do think, you know, aliens, all these things. I like the fun stuff. There are some things that I think get taken a little too far, and we won't be going there. But I do find it interesting. And if I were to not at least give it a chance, then I feel like I'm not in a position to say so and so is full of crap like, okay, let me hear what you're saying. I will look up these things that you claim, and I will draw my own conclusions. So there are things. There are conspiracies out there that I have listened to. I've watched videos on, I've done research on. And at the end of it, I said, I don't believe that maybe some things are not totally true, not totally true in this whatever scenario, but I don't think x, y, and Z. Right.

So what I'm hearing is, listen, be curious. Do your own research and come up with your own conclusions based on your research and what works for you.

You said it. That's it also. That is it.

Also, before we get going, I interviewed two book authors called Jay Watson and Kyle Wilshire, and they wrote a book called the Dead Rock Stars. And that's about how John Lennon and Elvis might have faked their know, we don't know. Might have faked their death and became secret engines. And we did talk about Paul in their interview, too. So anybody who wants to listen to that, go to episode three or seven and have a good time listening. Okay? Yeah.

Heck yeah.

Yes.

All right, well, let's dive right in, right into this one, then. So we got a lot of people who listen to the show that are big Beatles fans. So this one, by the time we reach our conclusion today, you can make that decision on your own as to whether or not you think that Paul McCartney is done. All right? So as this article, by the way, comes from beatlestory.com, and I will find a name to give proper credit to this writer before we finish today. So anyway, yeah, Beatlestory.com. So, as avid Beatles fans, we have heard every fact, story, and theory surrounding the fab four, from in depth analysis of lyrics they wrote to transcripts of private conversations that they had in the studio. We're lucky to have such readable material on our favorite band so readily available. But being the most documented band of all time doesn't just come with its fun factoids, but with its wild theories and deductions, too. What happens when fans take their analysis one step further and start looking for hidden meanings? When listeners begin to search recordings back to front for secret messages? Any Beatles fan can answer that conspiracies such as the legend Paul is dead theory. All right, so we're going to take a quick little deep dive into what a lot of people, and, I mean, they have been thinking this for a long time. This goes back all the way to the days of the Sergeant Pepper's album is when people started kind of like raising their eyebrows about what may or may not have happened. So, Amanda, before we get into it, have you ever heard this theory before?

I have not really, which is interesting, but I mean, I don't listen to much about rumors. I'm all about cults. I've got to do some research because there is a former member of the Beatles that has a connection to a cult. Something Alamo, but I want to call it Alamo. But he made jackets. Hold on. I just listened to this while you talk. I will find the information.

Sounds good. And for those of you, another fun. It's not really fun. I don't know, maybe it's not fun, but Helter Skelter is a Beatles song, which is where Charles Manson got that anyway. Yes, and then we get into the.

Whole satanic panic like that.

Okay, listen, we have to do an.

Episode on that, too.

We can, because I have done that with my brother in law on our not religious podcast that we did years ago. We did a whole satanic panic episode about heavy metal and dungeons and dragons and Harry Potter and stuff like, oh, and the eagles. The eagles are pure evil. Hotel California is about, obviously.

I mean, come on now.

You get there and you can't ever leave, right?

There you go.

You're stuck in hell anyway.

Forever.

All right. Forever. All right, so let's dive into this theory here. So the theory goes that on the 9 November 1966, Paul McCartney was tragically killed in a car crash on his way home from working on the Sergeant Pepper album in the studio. The Beatles, wanting to save their fans from the heartache of losing Paul and dealing with the loss of their bandmate, decided to conceal the truth, perhaps not by choice, and replaced Paul with the winner of a Paul McCartney lookalike contest, William Campbell or Billy Shears, with the two names there. In the years following the tragic accident, the remaining beatles were whacked with guilt. Excuse me, racked with guilt and began leaving clues and messages in their music and material to communicate the truth to the fans.

Hold up. Stop right there, please. Okay, so they found two guys that look like Paul.

Yes. Two potential lookalike contests for a Paul McCartney lookalike search. William Campbell or Billy Shears.

Right?

That's theory.

So did they decide on one or the other or could both be.

We'll see.

Okay.

It could be interchangeable, right? Could be interchangeable. We'll have to see. Yes, very similar to the Avril Levine theory that she died after her first album, and then they brought in a lookalike to take her place so that the record company could continue to make money.

Right.

Amanda, did you find anything? Update.

Give her just 1 minute.

I am getting there. I was listening to you, but it has to do with Pete Best, who was the original drummer.

Yes, for Ringo.

Star came in, but I'm working on the rest of it, so you all keep going. But we are going to go with Pete.

We'll come back to that.

Give me just another minute.

Sure, sounds good. All right, so now let's talk about the truth. So in reality, there is no evidence to support this story. Although Paul was involved in two car accidents around this time, multiple witnesses and Paul himself confirmed that shortly afterwards that he was perfectly well. Additionally, there is no evidence that a lookalike contest ever took place and no trace of William Campbell ever. Ah. So apart from a few odd whispers here and there, the rumor never really gained any traction for the next two years until the September 17 of 1969, when a student called Tim Harper published an article titled, quote, is Beetle Paul McCartney Dead? In Drake University's student newspaper in Iowa, located in the United States, obviously. So the article is understood to be the first published work on the Paul is dead conspiracy theory and the catalyst in the transforming and the catalyst in transforming the conspiracy from an irrelevant myth to an international phenomenon.

All right, two things I want to.

Where we at?

Yeah, two things I wanted to say or add to this.

Okay.

On one hand, it makes sense that the government or somebody held this contest, and after they found this, the lookalikes. Yes. They did everything to their power to get it all away so that nobody can find it. On the other hand, though, which is what I'm going to make. No, here is the Beatles came up with that theory just to make more sales. That could happen, too.

Could be.

I think there's something there. Yeah. So I found what I was looking for.

Okay, here we go.

We could go into, like, we could do a whole episode about just this, but a man named Tony Alamo, also Alamo, but whatever. Who was.

Remember the Alamo?

Yes. He was a leader of a cult. I'm just going to say, call it what it is. But he was a musician, and he helped produce some of Pete Best's music after he left the Beatles. And Pete Best's manager, David Rolnick, wrote an affidavit that said that Tony Alamo contributed greatly to any, I'm quoting here. It is his opinion, as in this David Rolnick, that Tony Alamo contributed greatly to any success that Mr. Pete Best achieved. Also, I feel like Alamo was responsible for the $6 million settlement Pete Best received from the Beatles.

Wow.

Fun fact as well about this Tony Alamo. Is that. Hang on.

Yeah, she's got dogs that are going, this happened.

It's a conspiracy. They're all out to ruin this podcast, right?

They're like, they can't know the truth.

They're not real dogs. They're lizard dogs.

Lizard reptilian.

Reptilian dogs. Okay.

Mother.

Sons of dad trying to be you mothers, right? Yeah. Okay, Blake, why don't you read the next person?

We're ready. Now, Tony Alamo also created jackets with lots of rhinestones that you should not buy because they were created by small children, because children have tiny hands and they can do little tiny bead work. But one of his jackets was worn by Michael Jackson.

Whoa.

That is on the COVID of, I believe, his rolling stone. Like, cover. Double check on mean. We're like Dolly Parton, like Mr. T. It is wild. Miley Cyrus wore one Nicki Minaj. I mean, it was wild. And he was even selling these jackets while he was on the run from the FBI, so.

Whoa.

Those are just fun, random facts. Look at all these wild conspiracy.

Oh, my.

Out there, man. I'm sorry. I lied. It was on the bad album cover, not.

Okay.

Sorry. I got it wrong.

So the bad album cover, just to. I thought it was, like, some leather jacket.

I got it.

You got it? Okay.

Is it right there? It's right here.

That's it. Okay, so that is the bad album cover. It's just on the COVID of Rolling magazine.

Yeah, because that's the one that you told me to look at.

It's the same picture.

Wow.

Yeah. So anyway, which I'll look at the wildness that is, all the conspiracy theories and how you can get back to all the things that is my weird knowledge. I love cults, so I can bring cults into things.

Yeah, there you go.

I love cults.

Even of cults.

We just watched the mother God documentary series. So wild, man. So wild, we couldn't stop.

What's it on? Is it on Netflix?

It is on.

Before we move away from colts, my little claim to fame is the college that I went to. One of our alums was Marshall Applewhite, also known as the leader of the heavens eight cults.

Oh, no, I don't know that that's a good thing.

Oh, my mean, I went to a tiny college. It's like our one weird claim to fame.

What?

A claim to fame?

Yeah.

The purple sheets and everything.

Yeah. So our family has a claim to fame, but it has nothing to do with courts.

Then it's no fun.

Well, it is fun because it's physical conspiracy, though. No, this is true because my granddad taught Ike Turner how to play guitar. So that's our claim to fame. So. Yes, you're welcome.

I thought ours was Gaskins. I thought that was South Carolina's, like, true crime. Claim to fame.

That's what I want. My guess.

Yeah.

So you.

Yeah.

Well, there we go. Wow. Interesting.

Went to my college. I'm sorry. You all know about music. I'm telling you. Ask me about cults, I can tell you all about them. We'll chat about cults, which goes back to my conspiracy paranoia, but more back.

Know, you should say that, because as seen here, there's a quote from Tim Harper, and he said, a lot of us because of Vietnam and the so called establishment. We're ready, willing, and able to believe just about any sort of conspiracy. So all these things are popping up during a time where people really started to not trust the government and not trust anyone in any type of leadership role because of war and what have you. Everyone seemed shady at that point. So you're willing to believe just about anything at that point because it seems like nothing is off, that it's like post World War II, right? All kind of crazy stuff happened during World War II that no one thought was humanly possible. And then there's all kind of COVID ups that are coming. Like, there's mysterious circumstances, JFK, that whole thing. That's a wild ride. That is something you guys could really get lost going down your YouTube rabbit holes about multiple shooters and things like that. Who are these people in the background anyway? So, yeah, you kind of can't blame people for being a little suspicious. And even up to this day, there's a lot of really shady things that are kept from us. That is true. That is true. So while I do love these kind of things, I'm not saying they're all 100% true, but there are shady things that happen about a lot of things. There's a lot of things that are covered up that I feel like should be more out in the open. Why is it being covered up? I don't.

Yeah, there's some stuff kind of going on right now that, where's Kate Middleton?

Where is.

I know, but she just did, um. She made a statement. But it's that, like, when you don't tell us things or you hide things from us, especially with how much access we have to information now, it makes you go, why are you hiding that from us? So now I'm going to make up a story, right. Because I don't have all the information.

Exactly.

I think that it's so much like when we feel like things are hidden and we don't have all the information, we fill in the gaps with whatever we can find.

True.

It's like a way of self soothing. Right? This concept is so wild to me that the only thing I can do is try to come up with some kind of answer because no one will give me an answer and that will help me process it. Know anyway.

Makes perfect sense.

So continuing on, following the release of the article, a caller to Detroit radio station WKNR FM informed DJ Russ Gibb of the rumor live on air. Intrigued, Gibb and other callers spent the remainder of the show discussing the rumor and its clues. Several other radio stations in the New York area began to pick up the rumor in the weeks following, including WABC, whose audience during the discussion in the early hours of October 20, 169 spread across 38 us states. Before long, the rumor became known all over the world, and popular music's biggest conspiracy theory became forever famous. Now, that is something like I kind of miss about the days of radio. Like, podcasts are great. I love being able to just pull up music anywhere on an app and listen to anything I want to. But there was something about listening to a radio show that I really enjoyed. I feel like if I would have been around for this time and you have people calling in and you hear this caller and they're saying these things, and it turns into a whole episode of whatever you're listening to. That is exciting to me. I feel like that I would have thrived with that.

Well, see, didn't you work at a radio, Blake?

I did kind of under the table. It wasn't official, but I did work on a radio show, and I kind of saw the ins and outs of nice of things. Always wanted my own radio show, so never got there. But you know what?

Podcasting.

Here we go.

You have a voice.

You do have the golden voice.

I don't know if that's true.

Radio face. How about that?

Face for radio.

That's right. Me, too.

When I think about this, and, blake, I'm just going to know, you don't have a face for radio. No, I disagree. But when I see this, it kind of has, like the. And I'm saying this, and obviously they called in and it was on a telephone, but it's got that telephone vibe to it. I heard this as opposed to right one online. It's still a game of telephone, just a different way. But it's much easier to find that initial source. And this, you couldn't just really quickly be like, I'm going to Google and find the original person that said the thing right now in the moment. But it's wild that it's spread across 38 states without the Internet that quickly.

Really quickly. Right? Exactly. Yeah, it's wild. I also love this quote from Paul McCartney, and I'm going to read it in my Paul McCartney voice, although my John Lennon voice is much more fun. Someone from the office rang me up and said, look, Paul, you're dead. And I said, well, I don't agree with that. It's pretty good, right?

That's a good. Thanks.

If you want me to do my John Lennon, let's say it was John Lennon, someone from the office rang me up and said, look, Paul, you did. Or John, actually. That's got more of like, sorry. Do it in your Cartman voice. Yeah, I'm not great with accents anyway. It may be highly offensive to some people. I apologize.

Do it in your Cartman voice.

Damn it.

That was perfect. Thanks.

That one I've got down.

Yeah, I don't really have any accents, but what I will say is that when I talk to you all, my southern comes out a whole lot more.

How can it not?

You say you all?

Because with you all.

Yeah.

For real. And I was trying to. Do you all agree that there's a difference if I say, hey, you all come here, or, hey, all, you all come here. Yeah. That's two different amounts of people, right?

Right.

100%.

A vastly amount.

All you all.

That's everyone. But if I look at two people and you all come here, but then it's like, hey, all you all. That's everyone.

I don't mean you all. I mean all you.

All.

Right.

That's a vastly big number, by the way.

I will say that I type y'all enough in my.

It picked it up.

That tall autocorrects to y'all now.

Nice. I wish I could do that. I wish I could do that. Okay, so there's evidence here, Blake, right?

There is some evidence. So let's look at the evidence here to kind of see where this is all kind of stemming from. So in the 50 years following the conspiracy, first gaining international fame, Beatles fans all over the world have submitted their own ideas of supporting evidence, quote unquote evidence. While most are far fetched, several have become synonymous with the conspiracy over time for their unusual, albeit coincidental nature. John Lennon was particular. This is the word that particularly will ruin me. I cannot. I'd say particularly.

You just did, man. Yeah.

Did it.

I like to say especially. So John Lennon was especially vocal. There we go. That's an easier word for me to say.

Sure.

Especially vocal about his annoyance of people who read too much into the lyrical meanings of Beatles songs, and in response, wrote glass onion in 1968 to purposely confuse the culprits. Ironically, Paul is dead. Conspiracy theorists took the lyrics to be an admittance of Paul's death. Especially the lyrics. Well, here's another clue for you all or y'all. The walrus was Paul. Fans have suggested that this is not only a reference to the song I am the Walrus, written by John Lennon for the Magical Mystery tour album, but more specifically to the album cover. The artwork portrays the band in costumes dressed as animals, three of which are stood shoulder to shoulder, dressed in white fur, while one member, the walrus, appears separate from the others, dressed in all black, a color often associated with mourning. Although it may seem an odd coincidence, fans have often debunked the so called evidence as to not only did John write and sing I am the walrus himself, but can be seen wearing the very same walrus costume in the magical mystery tour film, which I always found that album cover very disturbing. It reminds me of the shining.

Let me pull it up for the people on YouTube. Hold on just a minute.

Yeah, it's a very creepy. Like, you guys have seen the shining, right?

Long time ago.

I tried.

There's one person who's dressed as a bear, but it's a very disturbing scene. And the costume that he's wearing is very unsettling. There's some uncanny valley kind of stuff going on. But yes, this album in particular has some really creepy characters on the front. But, yeah, you have the walrus down there wearing all black. Right. While the rest of them are wearing.

So you say that was John or who was in the black outfit?

They're saying Paul was. Yes.

Okay.

But it wasn't really.

Oh. Or was it?

See, you're getting it.

Because if he's dead, like, then black. Because no more.

Yes. Welcome to the black parade. All right. And we'll carry on. All right. Anyway. All right.

We're not doing emo.

That's his name.

I also stand by the statement that the black parade, by my chemical romance is this generation's peppers.

Yes, I agree.

I think it perfectly kind of sums up that. Another popular point of discussion surrounding the conspiracy is that of the Abbey road album cover, where Paul is pictured walking barefoot and out of step with the other beatles. In some cultures, the dead are buried without their shoes. Uh oh. Some fans have understood the album cover to be a morbid symbolism of a funeral procession with John's white suit embodying the color of mourning. In some eastern religions, George's denims symbolizing the gravedigger and Ringo's black suit being traditional funeral wear. Although an interesting theory, the reality is a lot more plausible. Paul can be seen in other photographs taken during the photo shoot wearing sandals and, according to witnesses, kicked them off because they were uncomfortable. Additionally, their outfit choices were completely common of how they dressed at that time. Others have pointed out that in the photograph, Paul is holding his cigarette in his right hand, even though he's left handed. In truth, Paul always held his cigarette in his non dominant hand. And what I always say to that is never trust anyone who holds a cigarette with their thumb and their index finger. Can't trust those kind of people. Or if they wear a pinky ring, has to be held with your index and your middle finger. That is the only way I would trust you.

And not like, this pick.

Yeah. I see you holding it like this.

That's like, a more fancy way of how to smoke something. Right?

Can't trust. And if they're. If they're holding a cigarette like that and they got a pinky ring on you.

Really.

Right.

You done messed up.

Definitely if you have a pinky ring.

And honestly, I just realized for the first time that Paul McCartney wasn't even wearing shoes in that album cover.

I didn't realize that until just now. Never noticed. But I don't blame him. I don't like shoes.

Do you honestly think that a lot of fans are kind of reaching out because who would have thought that George is wearing denim just to signify, like, grave digger? Who would have thought?

Yeah.

Yeah. But you hardly see, like, grave diggers wearing denim.

I don't see him wearing. Right.

We never see grave diggers know how to be it. Right.

All the grave diggers I see are naked whenever they're digging graves. So they don't even wear.

You could be right.

I think there's so much in South Carolina.

Only in this. Okay. That's why I'm moving. I'm moving to Nashville. Damn it.

Same in Texas.

There we go. Right?

It's muggy, but I think, though, that if you look hard enough, you can find something to prove your right.

Right.

Or it's right there in front of your face, and they're just waiting for us to see it. And it's been right there. The answer to everything has been there the whole time, and we just didn't pay attention. Now we're here. Anyway, there is a quote from John Lennon in regards to this, and I'm going to do it in my John Lennon voice and try not to turn it into an irish accent. They said I was wearing a white religious suit. I mean, did Humphrey Bogart wear a white religious suit? All I've got is a nice Humphrey Bogart suit.

That sounded a little irish, but that's pretty good, right? That was great. Hell, yeah.

Anyway, perfect.

A little bit irish, but that's okay.

All of these should be south park voices instead of beatle voices.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Yes.

It's all Canada's fault. Thank you, Canada. So several other, quote, unquote, clues discovered by fans involve secret messages that can be heard in various Beatles songs. I love these. So one popular example of the suggestion is that John Lennon can be heard saying, I buried Paul in the final section of Strawberry Fields forever. As can be heard more clearly on the anthology two album version of this song. John is actually saying, cranberry sauce.

I will be listening to this later.

Yeah, cranberry sauce. All right.

No.

So a quirky lyric typical of John's humor. Other clues have been put forward by fans playing several Beatles songs backwards, such as the suggested turn me on dead man message hidden in the number nine vocal loop in revolution nine. Or the lyric Monsour, monsour, monsour. How about another one? And I'm so tired. Sounding suspiciously like Paula's dead man. Miss him. Miss him.

Look at that man. And she's like, no.

Wait. But I want to make sure we're talking about playing music backwards.

Backwards?

Backwards. Yes, backwards.

This goes back to like, we need to do an episode about the satanic panic.

Yeah, there's plenty of evidence.

Okay.

Calm down.

It's okay. In through your nose, out through your mouth. We're going to make it through. Although an interesting find, such examples have been repeatedly debunked to be nothing more than mere coincidences. In fact, the trend of looking for secret messages from playing songs backwards has been rife for decades. Several other popular groups of the 20th centuries have had their share of dark conspiracy theories, too, such as ACDC, the eagles, and Led Zeppelin, who have all been accused at times of brainwashing listeners with satanic messages as a result of the trend.

So before we get to the clues, did you all know? Well, this is another conspiracy. Stairway to heaven, right? The most overplayed, like, band song in a guitar. Guitar.

I'm over it.

Right?

I am over it.

Okay, so someone told me that that's about the devil trying to buy its way back to heaven. It's buying their way to heaven. That makes sense. What do you all think? No. Yes. It's like a day. Okay, so this image of Paula's day clues are these songs that you could play backwards that has.

Yeah, I was looking at it just now. That is a playlist on Spotify.

Okay.

And honestly, if I had the time to go through 46 different songs and listen backwards, I would love to, but I won't. No, I will just take their word for it.

There you go.

Boom. There you go. But yes, the playlist is called Paul is dead clues on Spotify. Maybe on apple Music, too, I'm not sure. But this one in particular is on Spotify.

Right.

Okay. John Lennon also had to say, those fruits were right when they said you was dead.

That's a good. Yeah.

All right, so, Jeff. Jeff's listening. I want Jeff to use his AI abilities to create an AI image of me as John Lennon. And I want to see.

We'll put that on a shirt, and.

We'Ll put it on a shirt and.

Sell it to our good fans.

We'll put it on our website. Okay, sounds good. All right. So now, moving on.

That's great.

And, Jeff, make sure that I'm wearing a t shirt that says, Paul is dead.

All right?

So, although there will always be some fans who believe the Paul is dead story, most view it as a wild conspiracy theory. That said, never before or since has there been such a unique cultural occurrence. Unlike other major conspiracy theories that barely catch the attention of the mainstream press, newspapers, magazines, radio stations, and even television networks across the globe, we're all asking whether Paul was really dead. By late 1969, what started out as a rumor and ended up in an international phenomenon will now forever be known as music's biggest conspiracy theory and will always be remembered alongside the greatest band that ever lived.

Amanda, can you do me a big favor?

Yeah.

I remember when my aunt Molly, she was the biggest Beatle fan, and she told me that a lot of fans were against the Beatles back in the 70s or 80s, maybe. Can you look it up? Because they got rid of a lot of.

I thought you were about to say, Amanda, you were alive in the 70s. No, why don't you.

I was.

What your thoughts were like. Oh, my God.

No. Because she told me that all of the fans discarded their albums and ran them over with steamrollers and see if you can find out for me, because I think that that was the reason why somebody made this conspiracy theory, to bring them all back to, like, the Beatles again, to make them buy the album. That's the closest thing I have to. This might make sense to us all, instead of just, here's my series, you know what saying?

Yeah, yeah. And here's my thoughts. Like, the Beatles were very artsy, right? And they were incredibly talented. They were always looking to push the boundaries. What can we do next? How can we make the next thing? It wasn't. I don't think it was all for show, to get people talking. But let's take it back, way back to their early days and the whole controversy surrounding them saying that they were bigger than Jesus. Do you remember.

That was the reason for. Yes.

I think they've always just kind of been controversial, maybe not necessarily just being jerks about it, but I think, hey, what can we do to get people talking? And then this theory comes up, and they probably thought it was funny, honestly, like, paul's dead, let's mess with. Know John Lennon's like, I'm going to write some songs and I'm going to do some of these things because. And it's also fun. I'm the kind of person, when I'm involved in something that I enjoy, I'm all in, right? I want to know all the details. Right. I'm fully invested. More than just like, I'm a casual fan. If I'm really a fan of yours, I want to be involved in all aspects. So if you have comic books, I want to read the comic books. You're in a movie, I want to watch the movie. And one of my favorite things about being a Taylor Swift fan is all these little Easter eggs and little things that she kind of does over time. Because what does it do? It brings us together. It allows us to connect with other fans of this particular thing or this person. And we have discussions, we give our own theories, like, oh, what do you think this means? I thought that she meant this whenever she sang this, in this song. Remember this picture that she posted on her instagram story today? In the background you can see such and such. This is a reference to love. I love that kind of stuff. And for the Beatles to hear this conspiracy theory that's honestly they probably thought was funny because it is absurd. Like, Paul McCartney died in a car crash and they just got a lookalike to stand in his place. That's funny. That is hilarious. It would make me laugh, too. And then they probably just said, let's just go with it. Let's put it in our songs and let's really mess with these people. Let's give them something to. Give them something to talk about.

Modern rate. I love it.

Let's give them something to figure out.

Give them something to figure.

It's all about love.

It's all about love.

Look at me. She knew some lyrics.

I see.

Look, it's working. We said it was going to work and it's working. Proof is in the pudding.

See, look at me.

There was another time the other day where, oh, I even made the Ozzy Osborne comment earlier. I knew Ozzy Osborne was in. What were you asking about, James? I got sidetracked.

Aliens?

No, they exist. But the time that fans got rid of all the Beatles records and stuff like that and ran them on with steamrollers and such or something. Because Blake said earlier. Because they did that. Because I think you said John said that they were bigger than Jesus.

I can't remember which one it was. They were like, yeah, we're bigger than Jesus now.

A lot of people did not like that.

A lot of people were upset.

So that's the reason why they did what they did with their records and such. Yeah, but I clearly remember my Aunt Molly saying something like that.

Yeah, I found something about this that was called burn your Beatles records.

That might be it.

1966. And the quote was, Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that. I am right, and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now. I don't know which will go first, rock and roll or Christianity.

Okay.

And which was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me. That was a quote from Lenin, from John Lennon.

Yeah. Because I thought it was drawn for sure. Yeah, man. But I mean, I was all the felt, and I felt like they had to bring them all back into the. Love us, love us. And that's where they. Okay, well, one of our members that we got to look like, come and see him. He's here live with us. Looks just like Paul. Come on.

Yeah.

When did they say Paul died again?

In, like 19. 69. 66.

Interesting, because I'm looking back. So that was the. 9 November, 1966 was the car crash. The burn your Beatles albums was August of 66.

Okay, interesting.

Only a few months difference.

Yeah. Month to change everything. Yeah, I know. So it's weird.

So I think that when it comes to artists, and maybe not so much anymore, but any kind of news or any type of publicity is good publicity. So let's take, for example, during the satanic panic and Reagan is in office, and Tipper Gore is also very much over media that is exposing children to whatever. That's the big concern. These movies are dangerous. This music is dangerous, these video games and whatever. So they come up with the idea to put the parental advisory sticker on the.

Okay, I want to say right now, I want everybody who knows Ice tea to probably get him on here on the show, because I want to ask, what do you think about Tipper Gore? Because he does not like that woman at all. No one really cared for besides Al Gore. Right.

It's interesting that her husband created the thing that is the thing we've got to protect all of us from.

Which little sticker says.

Al Gore is responsible for the Internet.

Right.

And that is where all of the scary things.

Right.

Even in the dark web, that sticker. I think there's been several artists that have said this, but I think the one that sticks out to me the most is Tommy Lee from Motley Crue said that Sticker is the best thing that ever happened to our album sales.

Really?

Yes.

Because I was like, yeah, they walk through.

Because it's for two reasons. You walk through the record store, you see an album cover. First off, the album artwork is going to catch your eye. But if it's got a parental advisory sticker and there's some danger there, that catches your interest. Right.

It does.

And then you've got to have it. It's eating you a lot. I've got to own this album. I've got to listen to it. I got to figure out what is so bad about this album that they had to put this sticker on here.

Right, right.

So you buy it, you listen to it, and then you become a fan. Another reason that people bought those albums is so they could burn them. They buy them so they could turn around and run over them with a steamroller.

But then again, doesn't care.

You bought the album, they bought the money.

They don't care.

That's exactly what happened with. Right. That's exactly what happened with the NWa rap group. It's like, they bought them. Who cares?

They didn't care.

They were making money.

I hated that stupid stick.

It was a weird. Yeah.

So, growing up, my family had the. What's it called? Columbia House.

Yes. Get tidy for a mint or something like that.

We were allowed to pick a certain number of CDs or tapes or whatever it was, and there was one that I wanted, and my mom freaked out because it had a sticker. Parental advisor. Advisory. Whatever. And so she was like, no, you can't get that because it has this. It was big ones. It was big one. I mean, it was like the album. Right. So she wouldn't let me get it because of that, mind you. I guess I was in high school. My sister, however, was allowed to just go into target or wherever and buy whatever she wanted, because she would just throw it in the cart and my mom would pay it for it. And she was younger, and I was like, this is not fair.

Right?

Why? Because I want to get it in your cheaper way.

So what was the album?

It was big ones. I forget what my sister's album was.

Big ones.

I just know that mine was big ones by Aerosmith. Aerosmith.

Okay.

I don't remember what album it was for her, but she just got know at Target, or I think it must have been target. She was younger than me, whatever album it was, even though it had a parental advisory on it, but I couldn't. And it was like a whole thing in our household.

I wonder why Aerosmith has a parental advisory on big ones. Because they're like blue school band or.

Aerosmith's big ones, I'm sure. Come on. I don't remember all the songs on there.

Yeah, but it makes me wonder now.

Well, it was a greatest hits album, wasn't it?

Yeah, there was their biggest. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe that's why I don't.

Yeah, it's weird. Walk on water loving an elevator rag doll. Dude looks like a lady. Jane's got a gun.

Maybe that's it right there. Dude looks like a lady.

Yeah, that was the greatest.

Or James got a gun.

Yeah, but I just remember being so angry.

That makes. Because. I don't know.

But it does make sense, because anytime you tell someone they can't have something.

You want it that much more.

It makes you want it more.

Yeah, because of course you do.

Right.

You have to be careful. I'm not a parent, but I think when it comes to parenting, I think looking at how you handle those types of situations, you have to take that into account. Like, all right, if I make a big deal about whatever it is, it may end up coming back to haunt me, because if I don't handle it correctly, then it may just make them want to do it more, and then they're just going to do it specifically because I said, don't do it.

Well.

I think it's a very fine line of, like, don't do it. But also, here's the why. With parenting, I think that there's lots of nuance to it, and it's got to be like. Because with my kids, for example.

Yeah, I was going to ask about that.

I will not even use my kids. So I led the youth group at my church for quite a long time, and juniors and seniors. And what I would always say to them is like, yeah, I drink, but you all don't. Shouldn't drink because this can happen. Here's the deal. Drinking is illegal because you're under 21. Also, guys, I love you, but teenagers make dumb decisions. People that are drinking make dumb decisions. When you were a teenager and you are drinking, you were making really dumb decisions.

Right?

So don't. Here's why. Now, when you're 21 and it's legal, that's a whole different conversation. I'm not against drinking. I'm against you drinking at this age because of these reasons. And I think that that's like, the difference is when you are, like, not, this is bad. Don't do it. Instead you are, hey, don't do this thing. Because. And you explain it and you're open and honest and have a dialogue. It's a whole different thing.

True, dad.

My thought.

There you go. Get some conspiracy theories and a life lesson all in one episode. How about that?

And some useless knowledge at the beginning.

And some useless knowledge. By the way, that article was written. I found her name. Emma Davies wrote that article for beatlestory.com. So real quick, Emma is a sales and marketing executive at the Beatles story with a bachelor's in music and popular music. In music and popular music. Excuse me. From the University of Liverpool.

Nice.

Go, Emma.

Yes.

Yeah.

Wonder if she can do a better.

Probably has a better speaking voice impersonation than I do.

We'll try to get her on. Who knows?

Maybe we'll have to get her on here and see how she does.

Yeah, well, I think she'll do like, ten times better of a probably. I don't know.

It'll probably hurt my feelings. And then, you know what? I'm going to need a mental health minute.

I see Amanda is going to throw her dogs away pretty soon.

I'm about to throw my dogs away. My kids just got home. But I'm going to get this mental health minute in here really quick.

We got it. We'll get it.

Actually, something that my daughter helped me with, which is I lose track of time. Yay. Adhd doom. Scrolling all of the things. So when it is time for me to get ready to go do something, she suggested I create a playlist. So I now have a 15 minutes playlist, 20 minutes playlist, and there is a song that is. That is your, like, five minute warning. You've got to get out the door.

Wow.

Wrap it up.

Nice song.

So whatever the songs are for you, mine is my final song on two of my playlists. One is fast car.

Fair enough. Yeah.

And then the other one that I know for sure is Chris Stapleton's. You should probably leave.

Yes. Great song.

Okay, good one. Yeah.

And that makes sense.

Enjoy your music and keep you on track time wise.

I see what you did there. I see what you did there, Amanda.

Yeah, that is great.

Exactly.

You should probably leave. Get out. But that's great. I got to go.

What a great one. That's really helpful.

And it's really on brand for this and my kids are walking in the door. And so the dogs are going to lose their minds in approximately, like, even more than they already have.

Right.

My daughter's like, I can hear her going, I don't know that it's going to work. And I hear the neighbors also mowing their lawn. So, yeah, we've got, like, all the. We're all set. Yeah, they actually did quite well. I'm surprised.

Nice.

Although they're driving me nuts. If anyone would like to borrow some dogs, just hit me up and I will let you have some with that. Do you all have anything else?

No, I think I'm good.

We're good.

Wrap up. I think our one takeaway is, like, do your research. Right? Have fun with it, but don't let.

It consume you with that, too. Like I said, with your playlist, if you are curious about something, create a playlist that is however long you really want to give to whatever that topic.

Is, there it is.

So you don't spend six months researching something. Maybe 45 minutes, create your little playlist, and then when it's over, you're like, okay, my time of researching is done. And then you start to make some opinions, create some of your own thoughts. But, yeah, I really loved her idea of playlist with a song that's a reminder, like, your five minute warning for whatever the thing is. So I started this weekend, and so far it has worked beautifully for weird.

You got me singing Chris live with it. Amanda, I love you for that. I'm going to listen to that song now until I go to bed. It's that song only. I mean, just over and over and over.

We should probably leave.

We should probably. Speaking of. We should probably leave.

And with that.

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Are you okay here?

No.

Okay.

Not okay.

Jesus.

Not okay. I have many a conspiracy reptilian brain. I learned way too much about reptilians today, and my brain is fried.

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Yes, that's good.

I need to have like a splash sound. I can always. Yes, that'd be good.

We need some background.

Yeah, we do.

For all these links to find more about us or to buy some amazing merchandise. See, you all wear off of me. I can't talk anymore either. Make that image so that we can sell it on shirt onwardsalemusicspeats.com. So hopefully that'll be big seller.

It'll have, we'll see. Jeff's kind of mean in New York. Maybe he'll come back and he'll be mean like a real authentic New yorker. And he'll be like, I'm walking here and he won't do it.

He went to New York, amanda, because he's a ghostbuster.

I'm working on something, too. We'll see who's better. Me.

Yeah, probably one day Jeff's going to.

Meet me and he'd be like, I hate you.

All right, probably, Amanda. I had to guess. Yeah, he was in New York for a Ghostbusters convention. He met the director of the new movie.

Yeah, because he's a president and a ghostbuster here. Yeah, because he did meet the director from.

Cool. Well, speaking of ghosts, who are you going to call? You're going to call Blake, because blake has a podcast called South Carolina spook Show, and it's all about ghosts and it's about true crime and it's about cryptids and what have you. So go check that out. It's available wherever you listen to podcasts. And I've got a new episode coming out very soon.

Almost.

Almost done. Be on the lookout for that. The very particular episode, it is particularly spooky or unspooky, as I should say.

Interesting.

Should I indulge a little bit? Okay, so there is a bridge in South Carolina that has had so many mysterious deaths that has happened in its history, but it is not haunted. Like there are no ghost sightings or anything, but there are all kind of weird, mysterious deaths that have happened. So. Yeah, check that out. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, check it out.

You want to hear some weird, Blake, sir? And then in something where you are, there are some kind of railroad tracks.

I've heard about some railroad tracks. I've heard about. There is a.

Have you heard about the children? They got killed in a bus, school bus. Every night when the car goes over the railroad tracks and you turn off the car, car just moves. It's like the children are pushing it out of the way for.

Okay, now I'm going to have to do some research on that.

Oh, don't get sucking too much.

Oh, no.

But I heard that rumor, like, years ago. I don't know if it's true. So, yeah, that's one thing I'm going to research.

It could have a new episode on the horizon.

Yeah. And then check out my other podcast, which is the mental society. Actually have some new stuff coming out. Like I promised. I got one episode out, and I'm working on a whole series right now about ADHD because that is my life right now. Trying to find ways to understand my symptoms and treatment and all of that good stuff. And then we're going to have some really amazing guests. Check out that there is more coming. And I'm really excited about all of that.

So, yeah, nice.

Check me out there.

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Yes. What's the chocolate one?

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Heck, yeah.

Awesome.

Do we have anything else to add?

That's it. Sorry. I'm searching for ghost stories. Ghost stories?

It's an hour time, Blake. You do that on your own time now. I'm just playing. You can do it whatever you want. So thanks again for listening to the show. I still can't talk, but that's okay. And always remember, see, I still can't do it.

When words fail.

And words did fail.

Failing. Oh, my God.

But music. Music will speak for us.

Music speaks. And trust no one. Goodbye, everybody.

Yay.

Everything is a lie. Nothing is real. Birds are not real.

No, they are not.

They're fake.

We done here?

I think so.

Okay.

Bye.

Bye. I.