Ep.301 – Burning Down the House Cover Wars (Paramore VS The Used)

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Podcast with Blake Mosley, James Cod, and Amanda Dolan.

Hey, everybody. It's me.

It's me.

It's Jac. Welcome back to the words fail Music speaks podcast where we fight depression with power of music. I'm your professional handicapped host, James Cox. And no, I am not the scooter from the voice of the Muppets. But I look like Tony Romo because we decided Ted Cruz out of here.

I'm still shooting for.

Ted Cruz. Tony Romo is a must, so we're sticking with Tony.

All right, Ted is a bust, and Tony is a must. Commonly referred to as the loudest guy in the room, but only when I'm playing the drums and not when I'm wheezing because I've been coughing my lungs up.

You sound sick, sir.

I sound terrible. I am your endless source of useless music knowledge, Blake Moseley, aka Brosley, aka emo beemo. I'll get it.

We don't mean we like him. He's part of know they'll keep well for now.

Yeah. And then there's me. And then there's me. Amanda Dolan. I may not know the name of the song, the artist, or the album like the other guys here, but chances are I will sing loudly, proudly, and poorly. Just ask my kids. They'll also tell you I'm not a regular mom. I am a super protective mom this week.

Yes, you are. I was hoping you would say you are a new wave mom, but super protective mom.

Yeah, that would have been better.

Write that one down, and we'll use this and find that one in the.

Future, I'm sure, cover another new wave band eventually.

Eventually, I'm sure we will. This band is one that. Not this song, but this whole band has very special place in my heart.

Nice. And I think that's why Blake wanted to do it.

There's. There's a lot of. So, yes, I love this band, too. My sister in law, Christine, is a huge talking Heads fan, and I even sent her both of these covers last week when one of them dropped, and I was like, I want your opinion because you are such a massive talking Heads fan. Give me your honest opinion about both of these covers. And she is brutally honest about a lot of things. She typically doesn't like covers, especially pop punk covers. She's like, it sounds like kids bop to me every single time. So I was fully expecting that out of her. And she gave me her pick. I will tell you all at the end which one she gave me, but she said, you just can't beat the original. So we'll see what happens today.

Burn and Dan house.

That's right, man.

That's a great song, too, man. I can't wait. But nothing really here is going on since I last talked to you all, which was a few days ago. Although I am starting to see the outro of my sickness, and I think Blake got my sickness because everyone in Columbia is training to know in sickness. Sorry, Brosley, but we knew it was coming.

You all keep that over there in South Carolina. We have enough going on in Texas. We don't need. Oh, yeah, we don't need your germs over here. You keep them, right?

Yeah. Until we're all better to go around, and then we'll visit Miss Amanda.

Yes. Come down to the lake. We can take the boat out. Yeah. Be fun when you're well.

Do you have a pontoon boat?

No, it's not a pontoon boat. You borrow the neighbors, probably.

Nice.

Yeah, we can definitely do that.

All right, so we have to bring up the obvious because it is fresh off the presses. Right. But rip. Toby Keith, man.

Yeah.

Okay.

I didn't know he was sick. I had no idea he was even sick.

I didn't either.

Yeah, because he had stage four kids for a long time, man. Yeah. Because I knew he had stage four, and I didn't know it. Well, stage four means you're on.

Yeah, essentially.

But I didn't know that it was this soon because I thought he would have at least had a few more years.

He's still doing shows. It wasn't that long ago that he was still. I think his last concert was like a month ago or something.

Yeah. I think that speaks to his love of music and performing.

Right, man?

Yeah.

Now, I will admit I was not a 90s country fan.

Because you weren't born yet.

I was. It just wasn't my forte. Like, my parents didn't listen to country. I was not exposed to country as a child. I didn't get into country until I got older. And then even by then, it was a very different form of country. Right. I liked old outlaw country. Willie Nelson.

That was my country.

Speaking of old people that are still touring, man, is 90 and still like Willie Nick.

I know, right?

I'm going to try hard to get him on because I don't know if you noticed, but he has a son that does music, too. I think his name is Pixel Pixie kid. I don't know.

There's also a mural on the side of the liquor store by the lake house that says Willie for president and a beautiful painting of Willie's face. It's pretty spectacular.

Great. Yeah. I love Willie.

It's actually like, turn. When you see Willie, turn right. That is how the directions.

Yeah, right.

What a landmark. That's awesome.

Great songs. Some mixed feelings about him, but we'll keep those. Not political.

No.

Yeah, you don't need that.

But, yeah, he was still a big deal to a lot of people. And while I wasn't the biggest Toby Keith fan in the world, there were a lot of people that I know that were very upset by his passing. So I hate that for them, and I hate that for his whole fan base. But cancer is a rough thing, man. It is a terrible thing. It does terrible things to your body. And if there's any type of good that can come out of it is knowing that he is no longer suffering. Right. It's a terrible thing to suffer from. And there's finally peace. So may he rest in peace. That's what I have to say.

Most definitely.

All right, now I'm bummed out.

No. Hey, get some.

No.

Let's talk about.

Let's dance.

We're talking about talking heads today.

Let's talk about those talking heads.

Yeah.

Dude, this is a great song. I am so excited. So last week, when we wrapped up our Paramore episode, we kind of alluded to that this tribute album to the Talking Heads is coming out, and Paramore has a song that they did for it, and it is burning down the house. But there is another great cover that I have been sitting on for a long time. By the used. That was done for the second Transformers movie. I believe it was the second. So it's been around for a while, right? And there are other covers out there. I just never found anything that was comparable to that, anything that could go up against it. Right until the paramore one dropped and I was like, oh, finally we can do burning down the house. Such a great. So we already know a lot about Paramore, Antel James and everyone be prepared. There is some new information that has come to light that I can't wait to share with you guys, but we'll get to that in just a little bit. But before we do that, let's dive into the history of this great new wave song by this great new wave band. So burning down the house is a song by a new wave band, Talking Heads, released in July of 1983 as the first single from their fifth studio album, speaking in Tongues. How clever. Burning down.

Clever.

Burning down the house is a new wave funk and art rock type of song. Quote, this song started from a jam, says bassist Tinauth Waymouth Weymouth. Sure, Tina.

Yeah.

Hey, Tina. In the liner notes of once in a lifetime, the best of Talking Heads, Chris Franz had just been to see Parliament Funkadelic in all its glory at Madison Square Garden, and he was really hyped during the jam. He kept yelling burn down the house, which was a P funk audience chant, and David Byrne dug the line, changing it to the finished version. Burning down the house, Bernie Worrell of Parliament Funkadelic joined Talking Heads live incarnation. The initial lyrics were considerably different, however. In an interview with NPR on the All Things Considered, aired on December 2, 1984, David Byrne played excerpts of early work tapes showing how the song had evolved from an instrumental jam by Weymouth in France, France, France, France. I really need to start looking up how to pronounce these last names before.

It'S more fun this.

Once.

The whole once the whole band had reworked the groove into something resembling the final recording, Byrne began chanting and singing nonsense syllables over the music until he arrived at phrasing that fit with the rhythms, a technique influenced by former Talking Heads producer Brian Eno. That's eno, not emo, and said, and then I would just write words to fit that phrasing. I'd have loads and loads of phrases collected that I thought thematically had something to do with one another and I'd just pick from those. So according to Byrne in the NPR interview, phrases that he tried but ultimately did not use in the song included I have another body, pick it up by the handle and you travel with a double. And I'm still under construction. As for the title phrase in the chorus, one early attempt, as heard on a work tape, had him singing a different line, what are we going to do? And at another point in the process, instead of chanting burning down the house, I was chanting Foam Rubber USA. I don't know. I feel like I would have enjoyed that, too. Foam Rubber USA. No, actually, that doesn't work.

No, it doesn't.

All right, so, yeah, great song, man. I'll admit my first exposure to the song was the used cover of it during or for that Transformers movie.

Right.

I don't know about you guys. Maybe a different. In fact, I'm almost positive it was a different experience altogether. Tell me what your exposure was.

I honestly don't think I've ever heard of a cover of this song, to be honest with you.

Really? You just knew the original.

I know the original talking dance song, but I'd never, ever heard of.

I'm sure I've heard a cover, but I don't know, not enough to where it was like, oh, that was a cover.

Yeah.

I remember talking heads. They're just been around. They're part of my childhood. Yeah. Talking heads are also a very important part of my college experience.

Yeah.

And she was. Which is a spectacular song about pretty sure just getting high. I mean, I don't know that for sure, but that's what I think.

That's probably what.

But, yeah, that was my sororities song that we would sing to at parties. That's my love of the talking heads, where it really came from. And I don't know. I'm curious about some covers because I wonder, can you really do better than the original?

Yeah, well, we'll see. But before we get to that, we're going to talk about the music video real quick. So the video, produced and directed by Burn, alternates primarily between footage of the band performing the song in an empty ballroom, Byrne playing while facing a projection screen that displays a concert crowd or a wall of flames at different times, and images projected on the outside wall of the house. A young boy resembling burn takes his place from time to time. Eventually, younger counterparts start moving the arms of all four band members to play the music. After the screen goes blank, both young and adult Burn lead the stage, and the video ends with an extended close up of Burn's face projected on a highway at night. The house used in the video is located on Myrtle street in Union, New Jersey. Max illage, credited as Max loving vocalist of the band 40 below summer and rockets red glare. How about that? Appear as younger selves of Byrne and Jerry Harrison, respectively. So if you're wondering if you can visit the house that was burning down the house, you can. It did not, in fact, burn down.

It didn't burn down.

No.

Good.

Yeah. So pretty popular song, I'd have to say burning down the house became the talking head's highest charting hit single North America, becoming their only top ten single on the US Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number nine, as well as reaching the top ten in Canada. Despite this success, the song was not a hit outside of North America. In Australia, it peaked at a modest number, 94, while in the UK, where talking Heads would release 14 charting singles, it failed to chart odly enough, right? Isn't that weird? A year later, an extended live version of the song is a highlight of the band's landmark concert film stop making sense. And then in September of 2023, commemorating the film's 40th anniversary, a remastered version was released across America in IMAX theaters and later in conventional theaters worldwide.

Wow, I miss theaters.

Yeah. But what's funny is typically you'll see a song is really popular over here, but not popular. The complete opposite. That happens a lot, right? It'll be like the band will be from the US. They have a song that tops the charts in Germany and it's always Germany. It's always Germany. And then they fail to have the same type of success in the US. I don't know, it's just weird. We're all just different, I guess. I don't know. Everyone's got different. Let's, let's, uh, let's take a quick dive back into Paramore real quick. That is going to be the first one that we listen. Uh, but you already know about Paramore. We just came off a two parter about them. But just as a recap, american rock band Paramore released a cover of the song for a tribute album. Everyone's getting involved. A tribute to the talking head stopped making sense now. Actually, James, before you play this.

Yes.

What I was going to tell you guys, the other video that I sent you, I just found out recently that. All right, I've known about this song for like two years. This is like one of my favorite karaoke songs to do.

Really?

This guy is one of the touring guitarists for Paramore and I didn't realize it until like 30 minutes ago.

Really?

Brian Robert Jones. But he does a lot of solo work and stuff. He does a really good instrumental cover album of a bunch of pop songs from the 90s, like some NSYNC and stuff like that, too. But this is just a song that he. It's a joke song. We're going to preface this by saying there's a bit of language in the song, but if you can get past that, the song is just really funny.

I don't know.

I found this song.

I had no idea he was bringing this out.

Amanda, we're not going to listen.

This is amazing. Just this. I'm excited.

This guy was the touring. One of the touring is.

He is currently the second guitarist for Paramore. He's not an official band member.

Okay.

Right. But play a little bit of this song. If you guys want to skip forward like a minute or so so you.

Don'T have to hear.

It's got some language, but I'll edit.

This one down big time for you all where you don't have to. I mean, kids, take a listen.

This song.

Here we go. Three, two, one.

I got a bunch of shit on my ass. How did I get all of the shit on my ass? Shit on my ass. Whoa. How did I get all of the shit on my ass?

Oh, Blake, I love you so much right now. You have no idea.

I love it. This guy.

Look at Amanda. She's like, what?

I just realized that this is like a kid's bop song with the wrong words.

I know. I love it.

I can totally feel like there's a version of this song where it's teaching kids how to wipe their bottom.

I discovered this song on TikTok two years ago and it cracked me up naturally because I have like, twelve year old boy humor and I thought it was so funny. And then literally 30 minutes ago I realized, oh, my God, that's the guy that plays guitar in Paramore now. Are you kidding me? I'm so excited about it. I love it.

Yeah.

And I just want to say that, like you said, you have twelve year old boy humor. I think everyone does. We just don't want to admit that. We do.

Just embrace it, man.

No, we all do. We all think farts are funny. Jokes about poop are funny. It's funny. But there we've said it. I am a mom of two, I'm in my forty s, and farts are funny.

Farts are funny. That gummet.

There we go. Yes.

All right. Well, now we can listen to the paramore cover of burning down the house. Play that ish, James. Three, two, one. There he is.

Okay, that's him. All right.

Welcome to match. Let's watch out. He'll magate what you have to cool baby chasing not a stranger I'm an ordinary guy burning down the house hold tight wait till the party silver hold tight wherever nasty weather that got to be away burning down the house well, here's your ticket pack your bag tap a jumping overboard transportation is here crossing up but not too far maybe you know where you are fighting fire with fire always here you might need a little shake out dreams walking in was a light 300 burning down the house it was once upon a place sometimes I distance to myself gonna come in for place people on their way to work say baby what did you expect? Gonna burst into play that's right don't wanna hurt nobody sweep me off my feet no beds up on me drop the court and you have not seen nothing yet everything stuck together well, I don't know what you expect I ran into the deepest fire you sa it.

Pretty solid, I would say.

Yeah.

What say ye?

I like it a lot actually.

Yeah, pretty.

The female voice. Yeah, but the female voice is a different, right. Kind of vibe to.

Yeah. Yeah.

And also not going to lie like watching the video and them having so much fun made it more fun, right?

Yeah.

And I know that Reggie Whitez was there too, singing, helping him get under the chorus.

Who that is?

Oh, Reggie Whites. You don't know Reggie Whites?

Reggie Watts. Tell me, tell me more about this Reggie Watts.

He is a musician that can take his voice, take his own voice and loop sounds. He's like a loop.

So he's the other guy with the afro.

And I think he co hosted Tonight show or something. He's really well known, but they pair more. That song is great. Yeah, I love that one.

Yeah, it's a great cover. I think it's one. If you're looking for something that pays homage to that original, if that's more your speed. Whenever you're looking for what you consider to be a good cover song, I think they do a great job of making it sound a lot like the original do.

They do stay true to that.

So solid cover. I'm excited about that.

I can hear the feistiness of Haley come out at the end of. I really love that.

Me too. Nice. All right, this next one, this one right here, you all strap in. I don't know if you've ever heard this next cover, but it is something. All right, so let's talk about the used real quick. We've briefly mentioned them before. We kind of did a cover wars where we featured a song by them, james the COVID wars that allie was on for Happy Christmas war Burt McCracken and the Strand drum Corps Burt McCracken is the singer for the Used. The used is an american rock band from Orum, Utah. Formed in 2000. The group consists of vocalist Bert McCracken, bassist Jeff Howard, drummer Dan Whitesides, and guitarist Joey Bradford. Former members include Quinn Almond, Brandon Steinekurt, who now plays for Rancid, and Justin Shakovsky. The band rose to fame in June of 2002 after releasing their self titled debut album. They followed up with their second album, in Love and Death in September of 2004 and their third album, lies for the Liars, in May of 2007. Shallow Believer, an ep that featured most of the band's b sides, was released in February of 2008. Their fourth studio album artwork was released in August of 2009. A fifth album, Vulnerable, was released in March of 2012. In July 2013, they released another ep titled the Ocean of the sky. Their 6th album, Imaginary Enemy, released in April of 2014. 7th album, the Canyon, was released in October of 2017. Their 8th studio album, Heartwork, was released in April of 2020 and a deluxe version of the b sides from the recording sessions was released in September of 2021. Their 9th studio album, Toxic Positivity There we go was released in May of 2023. The band has enjoyed commercial success with their albums, achieving gold and platinum statuses in many countries worldwide. And another thing I want to throw in there. Sorry, dogs barking. All of their albums have been produced by John Feldman from Goldfinger. He is a master craftsman when it comes to producing albums, and he has worked now with everybody, but he kind of got his start as a producer working with bands like the used and story of the year. But now he's doing albums for, like, blink one and just so many other bands you can think of. The guy's a master craftsman, right? But, yeah. As mentioned before, this song was released for the revenge. What was that movie? It's one of the Transformers revenge of the fallen. Yeah. So cool little cover that they did. I think you guys are really going to like it. I love this version. I can't wait for you guys to experience it.

So Blake wants us to vocal up a minute. Are you ready?

I'm ready.

I have no idea what this sounds like.

I know. I'm excited and nervous.

Yes. It's Blake, right? Okay, here we go.

This is not an official music video either. This is like a fan edit thing. It's cool, visually, to watch if you're watching along on YouTube or something.

Okay, here we go. In three, two, one.

End a go, baby. I'm an or dead. Every guy running down the house close tight wait till the cloud is over hold tight there has got to be a way burning down the house here's a bitchy. Crack your bag I put your finger closing up why not? You already know where you are fire with fire it take down 365 it was a one place sometimes I listen to myself got it coming for grace because, baby, why did you wait? Gotta bless it to play my house that's right, something short cannot be off my feet burning down the house no, there's a holy dark corner. You have not bend on it yet everything got together. I don't know what to expect there tv can sharp.

Dude. Really, really good.

Why do you need dentures?

Why do you need dentures?

Why do you need dentures? I want to know. You tell me.

I don't think you need dentures, do you?

I don't think so.

Okay. Not yet.

Yeah.

But there are two things I really liked about that. One that standed three things was you could hear the bass drop very properly. I love the way they did the hihats during the verses. That was extra. Uh, and it sounded like he was singing through a megaphone during the verses.

Probably was. I don't know for sure if John Feldman was the one that produced that song.

Okay.

I'd imagine that he probably did, because he's just always worked with those guys from the beginning. And if he is, then he is probably the one who did a lot of that. That guy has such a creative mind.

Yeah. That worked perfectly. Especially the bass drop. I mean, that really got my attention, and it needed to be where it needed to be, right when we heard. Amanda.

Yeah.

Amanda, I'm having some thoughts.

Okay.

Tell us, y'all about it.

One I really liked. I've. I've grown to love some more metal kind of stuff of late, and I liked that. It's very different, and it's one of those, like. It's very different. And that's not bad. It's just I'm sitting with it. It's not what I was expecting, because I came in not knowing anything. Never. I liked it. And I think that with the video in the background, all of that, it fit right. It works.

It works well for a Transformers soundtrack.

Yes.

Like, thinking back on the soundtrack album.

I don't think it could fit on a full moon, lengthy album. I don't know.

Yeah, probably not. It works better for a soundtrack. And we're talking about a time whenever soundtracks still sold, right?

Yeah.

People looked forward to the soundtrack of a movie that was coming out. That was a thing people got excited about.

Yeah. Big thing.

To this day, the Top Gun soundtrack is one of my favorite albums.

Really good.

It's so many great songs on that.

For me.

It is a great album.

Yeah.

The original Spiderman soundtrack. Movie soundtrack.

Yeah, that one with Josie. Josie Scott and Ted Kroger.

Kroger, baby. Yeah.

Spiderman.

Okay.

I got to ask, though, are you a Transformers fan?

I was watching a lot transformers.

Transformers.

But I really wasn't like a hungry transformers.

Transformers circle. Like, 1980, whatever, 90, whatever. Yes. The cartoon, yes.

Okay.

Not the movies.

I was more like a big Heman and Thundercat kind of guy.

Yeah, she ra.

Yes. Oh, my God.

She was fantastic.

She was mean.

Transformers were part of my weekend tv time, but then the movies, I don't know, there's something I struggle a lot with. Live action versions of my favorite cartoons.

Yeah.

How about you? Blake was a Transformer.

So Transformers as a cartoon kind of missed me whenever I was growing up. That wasn't a big thing in the early 90s, right? I mean, the cartoon is still around, but you got to think, when I was a kid, all we had as far as what you could watch cartoons on was, like, fox kids or things like that, right? Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, stuff like that. So whatever was on there was what I got into as a kid. So for me, that would have been Spiderman, like the animated show, animated Batman show, Ninja Turtles, which was 80s, too. When I was a kid, there were just no Transformers shows that I could ever remember. So when they announced they were making the movies, I was like, okay, I.

Know what is right, but I don't.

Know anything about them. And I'm still not into Transformers, but my cousin is a massive Transformers fan. Like, hooked, had all the figurines, everything you could think of.

I had a few figurines, but my favorite Decepticon was Starscream, and it still is to this day. Yeah. I don't know if you'll notice, but Sid Wilson from Siddhart, his alter ego is DG star scream.

He's a big Transformers fan. And my cousin was so excited about the movies when they were coming out, so I enjoyed the movies, and we kind of talked about the soundtracks and stuff like that. So Lincoln park was on two of the soundtracks or whatever, and it's a very fitting sound for those movies of what their sound is. It just fits well. And while the use typically doesn't sound like this, this song in particular, I felt like was a great fit for Transformers movie, right?

Yes, very well.

And like I was saying, I feel like, it's great for a soundtrack, especially 100%, because typically soundtracks are going to have either original songs or covers. And in this case, it was a cover, and I think they did a really great job with it.

Right. I think that the Paramore was more true to the original, but there was a lot of stuff I loved about the used cover, for sure. All right, take a vote now.

Voting.

All right, Miss Amanda, would you like to start this off or do you want me to start it?

Start. Let me. I've got to sit with this another minute.

For the reasons I mentioned before, the base drop, the megaphone gimmick, and the I really love the hi hat during the burger. I gotta give it to the used. Although I do love Paramore, but, I mean, this one just really blew my socks back.

Yeah. You still need a minute?

No, I'm almost there, I think so.

I am also going to go with the used for this version. And no discredit to Paramore's cover at all. I think it's great. I think it's fitting for their sound now.

And a tribute album.

And a tribute album. Absolutely. 100%. And as we mentioned in our last episode, a lot of Paramore's new music sounds like the Talking Heads.

Yes.

Haley Williams is a massive talking heads fan. And now that is just starting to bleed over into their writing and their.

Recording, which is great.

It's great. Yeah, I love it. I think it's great.

I'm here for it.

They've crossed over, like we mentioned before. Absolutely. Put them on the Mount Rushmore for emo bands, but that's not what they're about anymore. This is what their current sound is about. And I think it's great. It's a great direction for them to go. I think they do that cover a lot of justice, but I think if I had to pick between the two, that cover, by the use is just so good.

I really liked the paramore cover, and it was like a tribute. The like, it honored the original so much. And I love Haley Williams'voice, period. Having that female energy I really saw. I think it was a reel that somebody was like. Sometimes when I'm singing along to Paramore, I just have to stop and let Haley Williams do her thing.

Yes.

I can't fight her.

No.

Have y'all heard the Haley Jamiko Williams thing?

No.

We came across these TikToks. It was after they did Austin city limits. And Haley Williams has been twerking on stage since Piermore has come back, and it's been all these people reacting to her TikToks and watching her twerk while they're doing misery business, and they're like, okay, go ahead, miss Haley Jamika Williams. So anytime me and. Me and Allie talk about Haley Williams, we're like, oh, do you mean Haley Jamika Williams?

Jamika.

I love that. So while I do love the paramore cover, I think I've got to go with you because it's right. Yeah. Especially for what it was in the sense of the soundtrack. And also, it's different. I like the vibe to it. I do all of it. I think we're three for three here. But what did our off camera.

Okay. All right.

Oh, yeah.

Camera voter. My sister in law, Christine, who is a massive, massive, massive talking headspan, she also went with the used for her cover, which I was shocked that that was.

Baby.

I did not know that that was the one. I figured she would go with the paramore cover. And in fact, I'll pull that text message back.

Is she a big paramore fan?

She is a. I would say.

Okay.

So I sent her both covers and I said, corporate wants you to listen to both of these covers and inform of the version.

I love that.

She said, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that the talking Head version just isn't going to be topped. But if I had to pick one of the two that you sent me, the used was better than paramore. Okay, nice. She said, yes. One of the best bands that's ever exist.

I don't think we need Jeff's input here. I think Jeff can take a day off, right? Yeah, he won't.

Even though he was wrong the last time with me.

So thank you, Mr. Jeffrey. I love you for that, brother. It's all love and good.

Jeff.

Jeff Wiz.

Yeah. Our resident ghostbuster here.

Our resident ghostbuster. Yeah. I think as far as the COVID goes, Morris is good. It's enjoyable. You're like, okay. Yeah.

Because he's not expecting all that to happen with that song.

Used version just gets you hyped. You're like, every time I hear that drum intro, I get pumped up, man. I love the electronic drum intro.

That.

That song really good.

Anyway, I love the paramore as a tribute because it is very true to the original. But that used, I mean, it's a whole different vibe, and I love it.

That's something.

If you guys like Demi Lovato. I don't know if you guys are fans of Demi Lovato or not. I am Lovato. Just redid a couple of some of her older songs, but redid them. She kind of did like a Taylor's version. Not full albums, just a couple of songs, but like, give your heart a break, I think is the name of the song, which is one of her more popular ones. Kraken from the use is actually featured on the remake of that song. And so I'll send that to you guys later.

Yeah, do that.

Yeah, definitely do that.

Interesting.

Anywho.

Yeah.

Was that it?

Awesome. I think that's it. Is that it? Anything else?

I do have, like, a quick mental health minute. It's really not like a big thing. I just came across this. I put it on my instagram story today. But keep this in mind for those of you, this is aimed at some of you folks out there. Hating popular things doesn't make you an interesting person. I'm just going to leave it at that.

There you go.

Yes. Whatever you love, love it. And also, don't hate because just to hate, like, that's silly. You cannot like something. But hate is. Hate is really like you're giving something a whole lot of energy.

Yeah, dude, you really are wasting a lot of energy just outright hating something just because the rest of the world likes it.

Because I always say the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.

Boom, hit them.

If you're showing something a lot of hate, you're giving it a whole lot of energy and it makes me go, do you really hate it? Or are you just trying to pretend that you hate it so that nobody thinks you're basic?

Let's keep all this in mind when we're talking about Taylor Swift and the Chiefs. All right? Let's just all keep that in mind that a lot of you guys are just hating on Taylor Swift just because whatever, she's on the screen for 30.

Seconds and taylor didn't ask to be on the screen when they pan to her. And also, for a lot of us out there, it's made football interesting. It's something that we're starting to look into now. And so why are you trying to gatekeep football? Because somebody got there a certain way, or whatever it is, however somebody got to wherever they are, that's it. They're there now. Whether they got there at the very beginning or they're a bandwagoner, as some people might say. It doesn't matter, but people like what they like.

And I thought y'all weren't watching the NFL anymore because Colin Kaepernick took a knee a couple years ago. Y'all said you were done with football and now you're watching it.

Not. I don't really care about football, but I think Taylor Swift's under fire now because I don't know if you all know, but in the Grammys, like, a couple of days ago, a lot of people said that she snubbed the Miss Celine Dion.

I don't know. I didn't watch the Grammys.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, Amanda, just go back and watch.

Didn't.

I don't think she snubbed her.

I think she was presented the.

Yeah, yeah. But she handed her the award and it looked like Taylor Swift just didn't say hi, didn't hugg her. I don't know if you're looking for. I'm not really going to judge anybody for that. But we don't know.

Stupid.

We can always find something to complain about to point out that somebody did something wrong.

Right?

Were we talking about this or was it. I don't remember. I think it was you all. But somebody can make a mistake or do something a while ago.

Yeah, we were.

And change and learn from it. Also, unless somebody is really outwardly saying or doing something that is very obvious, let's not make things bigger than they are.

Right.

Unless I am saying whole sentences that are negative or horrible, whatever. Let's just assume the best in people, because most of the time that's what it is. People are doing their best, so just let them do their best and let's Kumbayat, people.

There you go. Live and let die.

That was my axle rose.

That was a great.

It was fantastic.

I was thinking more of, like, helping with that. My raspy voice is helping with my axle rose.

Yeah. And I'm over here just thinking Kumbaya. Let's have a going back to the church camp times.

Grab one for a mandolin is over there.

Okay.

There you go.

Are we done with the coffin now?

We're done. Yeah.

I'm sorry.

No, it's fine. James was coughing earlier. You're coughing.

I cough in, too, so. All right.

You're good.

That's awesome. But you all, seriously, keep your cough cold. Whatever that stuff is, you keep it there.

I'm trying to get better so we can visit.

Yes. Maybe we just need to meet, like, somewhere in the middle. Somewhere cool. I don't. New Orleans or studios. Oh, gosh. New Orleans. Imagine the trouble. Fun.

So fun.

That could be.

Yeah.

I have a love hate relationship with New Orleans. Like, I love New Orleans. I don't love the French. I mean, I don't love a bourbon street.

Okay.

I've never been, but in general, I'm just not a fan of really drunk.

I. I've turned away from them at all times.

Dude, I got a friend that's going to see Taylor Swift in New Orleans.

Oh, wow.

That will be an experience, I'm sure.

I'm waiting for her to report back to me what that experience was like.

Yes.

Ask her if she's taking a video of Taylor Swift.

I will ask her to, please. She's very active on the TikTok, so I'll ask her.

Okay, good.

Remind her to take a backup battery with her.

Yeah.

And all of the excited. Yeah, I'm excited. That would be an experience. I mean, it's an experience anyway. And New Orleans is an experience.

Yeah.

Put the two of them together. Oh, my. What a wild.

But everybody, love what you love. Do what you do. And don't pretend to be anybody but yourself. That's all I got to say.

Love what you love. Do what you love to do. As long as nobody gets hurt. And I always say, as long as nobody gets hurt. And that includes yourself.

Yes.

Do what you love. There you go.

Take care.

You got anything else?

No, I don't. That's it.

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You do sound better.

Maybe I should sound a lot better.

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Boom.

Is there anything else, girl?

That's it. Let's go burn down the house.

Go burn down house.

Burn down some houses, everyone.

My house.

No, don't burn down houses.

We're going to go in real life houses. Good night, everyone.

Thanks again, everybody, for listening. And always remember, when words fail, music speaks. Bye, guys.

Bye.

Ah, burning that house.

No, don't set things on fire. I.