Ep.302 – Classic Rock Band Names

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Classic. Classic.

Yes. Classic. Exactly. Because.

Get the lead out.

Yes.

All right. So in my hometown of Sumter, South Carolina, we have a rock station. 94 seven bad dog 94 seven bad dog 94 seven, which started out as a. What it used to be forever ago, actually used to work under the table at this radio station on a radio show that was only on Sunday nights or whatever. So you saw all the ins and outs. You saw the different stations. They had a country station, r and b station, stuff like that. Well, 94 seven used to be something else. Then it turned into a rock station, and they played a lot of modern rock, right? They played like slipknot and blink and all that stuff. And then it has now progressed to this classic rock station. But I'm heavily offended because they'll be like playing Lincoln park and it's considered like a classic, right?

Okay. So to me, when I think of classic rock to this now, and yes, it is 2024, but to me, classic rock is like that. It's like the Led Zeppelin and the doors and CCR. Right. That's what I think of when I think of classic rock. And I could even throw in, like, you know, like some of park. No, no, I'm sorry. No.

Yeah. I was like, get out.

No, whatever. It's okay. Because I remember growing up hearing the radio that was like, eighty s. Eighty s, ninety s. And today or whatever. And then now I think, like, oh, the. Like 40 years ago.

Right. I know. I can't get it.

So that's like the music of when it was the music of the.

It's so funny to look back on the eras of. To keep Taylor swift in the mix here, the eras of our lives. And same thing. I remember going to fye in the mall and buying.

Does that still exist?

They came out, no, definitely not. Our mall. There's like two malls exist. So our mall, it has completely just gone to crap. Everything is closed down. It still has, like, a chinese restaurant in there. Shout out to King Walk's. Awesome. Um, there's a couple of shoe stores, some Urban Outfitters, if you will. And then what used to be the JCPenney is now a planet fitness where I go to the gym. And then there is a charter school that my friend Anne, you know Anne. Anne, she's a teacher at the charter school. She's not at that location, but one of their campuses is in the mall. It's just the weirdest thing.

I think that's amazing and awful at the same time. Because speaking of eras, there was that era in my life where we got dropped off at the mall and we would spend hours.

Yes.

And you would go to all the different stores, and there were a lot of stores. And then you would sit in the food court and that's where you would hang out and be seen. People will come up and talk to you. Yes. That is not a thing anymore.

It's not. And one thing that really bugs me about stuff like the days of going to fye and buying an out, the excitement of buying an album when it came out, listening to it for the first time, so many fond memories, like scrounging up enough money, $25 to go buy special edition CD, and then coming up on the 20th anniversary of the album that you remember buying, like when you were in high school. I'm just like, man, it is crazy to me.

So the jagged little pill, right? Like Alanis Morissette. A couple of years ago, we hit the 25th anniversary of that. She did a tour around that, and I was like, I remember that coming out. And I wasn't like, yeah. And so there's those. Yes. That 20th or 30th or whatever. It's like, that makes me feel older. But also I don't feel like when music drops on a digital format, it's just not quite the same.

Not quite the same. No.

I get excited about that, too. Don't get me wrong.

Sure.

But there's something about taking 10 minutes, trying to get the cellophane off of that CD case you can't. Right? And then you open it and you're so afraid that you're going to break the CD that first time you pull it out because it's stuck in there. Good.

That is why I have really gotten into collecting vinyl. For one thing, I missed the days of just being able to hold the album in your hands. Kids now probably don't understand why that is a thing, but there was something really special about finally being able to possess this album that you've been looking forward to coming out from your favorite band. And so vinyl now is like that for me. And I won't buy a vinyl record unless I know that it is a solid album.

It's not a one song.

I don't want that. I don't want that. I want these albums that I get. Being able to hold it in my hand and be like, this album means something to me. Like, this album got me through a really hard time, or it reminds me of my childhood, whatever. I listen to it, like this old blink albums that I love so much, being able to possess them have physical copies of them means something to me.

And you don't get that feeling when you've downloaded something because it's not that physical. Hold in your hand and you don't really own it. It is, but it isn't. And that's what I struggle with. And I will remember forever. May have shared this already, but I always bought tapes because I am like cassette tape. I am older than you, and cds came out when I was in either late middle school kind of time frame. That was where they were more easily accessible. And the first album that I was ready to go buy for myself with my own money that I saved was Millie Vanilli, which is weirdly appropriate for so many reasons, but my dad was like, no, we're going to buy the CV. I'll pay the difference, whatever. Because cassette was like $9 and a CV was like twelve. It really wasn't like that big of a difference, but it was enough that for twelve year old me it was a lot. We bought the CD at Target. I still remember it. Like when there was the whole. There was like a quarter of the store was music. I swear, that's not the way it is anymore. So we went in and we picked it out, got it as soon as we get home. My dad. This is probably illegal, but that's okay. I'm sure the statute of limit. But he recorded it then for me on a cassette tape so I could listen to it. So there's a little piracy happening there. I know no one else would do that ever. No one ever did.

Literally no one ever did that.

Or made.

Amazing mix mixtapes, man.

So far, mixtapes. I was texting with a girlfriend of mine from high school and she still had and knew where it was. A mixtape that I made in for Christmas of 1995. And it was titled the Lunch Table Christmas Mix because we had the same lunch table that we sat with. All right. So she sent it to me and so what did I do? Because I had drawn and handwritten all.

The songs, you had to do the whole thing.

And then there was cut outs from magazines that were glued on there because she was so kind and sent it to me. At least tell me it's on my computer too. But I created a playlist for it. Here are some of the great songs. Night swimming by Rem.

Okay.

Or Rem, if you are young and you don't know that it's strong enough by Cheryl Crowe.

Okay. Yeah.

Supermodel by Jill Soviel, I think is how you say her name. Now let's just get naked by Joan Osborne. Tempted by squeeze, you learn by Alanis Morissette. Fly from heaven, chugged the wet sprocket.

Yes. Okay. All right.

Head of roses, bon Jovi, dead man's Hill and Diggo. Girls dreams, cranberries. I got no idols. The Juliana Hatfield three incredibly, like people missed out. They didn't listen to that band enough anyway. Then blister in the sun, violent femmes, misery soul asylum.

Okay.

Right. Typical situation. The Dave Matthews band linger, cranberries. Again, one of us, Joan Osborne, which is odly appropriate for our conversation that we have kind of off, like God being in interesting places in our world. And then watershed by the Indigo girls. Man on the moon by.

Yeah.

And then we closed out with something's always wrong by toad the wet sprocket.

Nice. What a good mix.

Totally. Yeah. When she sent that to me, I was like, I forgot I loved these songs. Right? Isn't that the way it works? So I have found that that is one of the great things about digital music is that you can find those old songs and people can, and smaller independent artists can actually release their music in a way that is more accessible. Like, you hear something on TikTok, but you can then find it on Apple Music or Spotify or whatever, which is really cool. You don't have to go to Soundcloud or whatever to try to find things. I never could make that work for myself. I never understood it, I think.

So one thing that I absolutely love about just music in general is even though it has been through so many different forms in its entire existence. Right. Think about the days before recorded music. You had to listen to it, live orchestras, whatever it was. And then we had recorded music, and some people, I'm sure back then was like, this is just not the same as going to see it live, whatever. Then it progresses. Like, we have different means of listening to music, and it goes through all these different eight tracks, cassette tapes, cds, MP3 s, vinyl, making a big comeback. It's got so many different forms, but we always find a way, music always finds a way to make itself known. And now we're in this age, like you just said, TikTok is a big part of that. TikTok, YouTube, social media in general is responsible for a lot of new artists, and they have found ways to make it work for them. And that's just like, music adapts. Music always finds a way to. And we find a way to make the music adapt. And I think that's so cool.

It really is, because think about when music starts showing up in your life, right when you were teeny tiny baby and your mom.

Casey and Jojo is the first song I remember loving as a kid, all my life by Casey and Jojo. What a great song. That was like the first song that I remember as a kid just being obsessed with. I loved it.

I'm trying to think of the song, but growing up, my dad, both my parents really, they loved Peter, Paul and Mary. And I remember that was my first concert with. I went to a bunch of orchestra concerts, but that was like my first concert.

Yeah.

And it was just like toss the magic dragon. I feel that. And I think then because of the Peace Dragon, that movie, which the original with the cartoon dragon over the live cells, those two then went hand in hand like it was a whole dragon thing. And then Michael and I have a dog that her name is Jade. And so I call her Jade the dragon or Jade dragon or fire breath. Your dog can't have one name, right? You've got to create a cool name.

Listen, we have three dogs and we have like 1000 nicknames for all of them. And they get used frequently.

And it depends on the mood that you're in and what the dog is doing. All of the things. But that take us into this, like how we create fun names from things around us, whether it's our dogs or dogs in particular. Right. But then we're going to talk about band names and how names came to people.

That's right. That is what this episode is all about. And this was your suggestion, which is.

Funny because you said that. And I was like, I don't remember saying this. Yeah, totally ADHD. Sure I did, but I totally didn't remember. And so I had to scroll back through.

Okay, I've got a running list in my phone of ideas for episodes and sometimes I go back and references and I'm like, I don't remember even putting that in. Yeah, it's. Yeah, we've got this episode that was, this was Amanda's idea, everyone. So send us this article from Loudwire of reference. It was like 30 band names that come from classic rock songs. We're not doing all 30. Obviously. We'd be here forever. I handpicked a lot of these. Just that stood out a little bit more. I'll admit there were some bands on there that I knew of, but probably not a lot of people knew of. So I'm just kind of like, whatever, let's leave them off. So these are way more well known, really cool list. And a lot of these things I did not know. So as someone who enjoys music trivia, it's fun to learn these things and.

Be like, this first one even. I'm like, really do not go together.

Right. Well, let's jump in here and let's learn about some band names. So that way, whenever you go to your next music trivia at your local brewery, maybe you'll win something and you can split the profits with us.

Or you can just impress people at a dinner party.

Who wants to do that? Right? No, it's all about making money. Let's kick it off here.

Or free beer.

Or free beer. Free beer is pretty great, too. So Judas Priest actually comes from a Bob Dylan song. So stylistically it seems like Judas Priest's heavy metal sound couldn't be further from Bob Dylan's folksy twang. Still, the two forever will be intertwined thanks to Dylan's 1967 song the Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest. So Bruno Stapenhill, Judas Priest's original bassist, heard the track and pitched the moniker to original singer Al Atkins before. Oh, man, what's his name? I can't think of Rob Halford. Excuse me.

I was like, I know how to.

Before Rob Halford came in and then after Rob Halford, Ripper Owens. We actually had him on the podcast one time. Yeah, he was fun to talk to, but, yeah. So original singer Al Atkins, he's quoted as saying, I remember telling Al, what do you think of that for a band name? Stapen Hill later said, I mean, he was never really into Bob Dylan. And he says, oh, that's a great name. And that's how it came about. So, wow. How about that?

What a wild. Again, I would never have thought Bob Dylan, Judas Priest.

Yeah. I would have never put it together. But I do remember now, I didn't grow up in this era, but, like, the satanic panic of, like, the lot of people were very against that band name simply because it just had Judas in the name. And I think that's where a lot of those crazy satanic panic hysteria that was still. You just hear something and you automatically assume the worst.

Yeah, Judas. Therefore, it must be demonic, even though Judas was. Anyway, so we could do a whole religious Bible lesson here, but let's not. But, yeah, it's wild because people make assumptions about so much.

Absolutely. Do your research. That's what we always encourage on the not religious podcast, is like, do your research before you just start blasting. Because something doesn't sit right. Because it doesn't sit well with you if you don't know the story. A prime example. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about. Go Chiefs, right? Super bowl. Great job. And Taylor Swift supporting her, man. But let's talk about Travis Kelsey yelling at the coach, right? Andy Reid. Okay. So a lot of people immediately were like, Taylor Swift, you've got yourself one hell of a catch at. Look at this man yelling at the coach. It's like, right, okay, first off, you don't know the history between Travis Kelsey and the coach. If I remember correctly, Travis Kelsey, when he went pro, has only been with the Chiefs. I don't think he's been on any other.

I don't think so either.

It's been like over ten years. They have a very close relationship, and he's passionate about football. The guy eats, sleeps, breathes, and was not on the field when they turned the ball over. And naturally, he was like, if I would have been on the field, that wouldn't have happened. And he's probably right. So to have that passion and your leader, you go to them and you say, I should have been out there. You've got to get me back out there. I want to win this thing. So, like, a lot of people giving him crap, and they don't know the.

Story, and it was a very brief moment. He went back and apologized to his coach.

He did.

The coach was like, I've been a coach for however many years. That is what happened. It was an incredibly emotional Super bowl.

It's the.

Imagine what it would feel like to be a player in the Super bowl.

Yes.

And then I'm going to go one step further and, like, Taylor Swift, what a catch. Are you trying to say that he is violent or angry or whatever? You know what? I have yelled like that at my children. You know what? That doesn't mean that I am like, an abuse. I don't hit them. I don't beat them up or anything, but sometimes you lose your cool.

Yes.

And that is part of being a human being.

Amen. Thank you.

But when you take a. Like, if I pull a section, like, a moment out of time, it can make whatever story you want.

Right.

Not to say the religious stuff again, but there is a meme that I hold very dear to my heart, that I can do all things through a Bible verse taken out of context.

Yes. Amen.

Right. I pick a word and be like, oh, this person said whatever they must be, this insert whatever thing I want them to be, because I can pull out whatever. So many interviews, even they pick and choose what was said, because. Was it Kelsey? No. What is Jason Kelsey's wife's name? Lost it.

Oh, Kylie.

Kylie. Thank you. She said something about Taylor Swift, I forget, but it was more of like, that's not my thing. But I'm happy to have her part of the family or something. But what everyone took out was like, yeah, he doesn't like this. Whatever. But that's not what she said. She said, that's not what I want.

Right.

But I love Taylor, and she's great and excited to have her part of our family.

Right.

It's like all of those things. So easy to just take. So, like, yeah, Judas priest, like, okay, well, are we evil? Evil? No.

On that podcast, we did a satanic panic episode, and we talked about Harry Potter and Pokemon and dungeons and dragons and all the things, and it's just a good reminder that the world sucks and everything is taken out of context. You do have to be careful. And that's what Andy Reid told him. He was like, hey, man, I love your passion. I love you. But I got cameras on me, like, for your benefit. Just take it down a notch and we've moved on, right? Tried to make it a thing, wasn't a thing, and just keep. The guy won the super bowl. Good for him. Taylor, swiftly supportive. Great. I love it. I'm here for it, man. And you know what? Again, hating popular things doesn't make you an interesting person. Yes, Taylor Swift. I love football. I have recently grown to love the chiefs. I also love the eagles. I love the Kelsey brothers. I think they're hilarious. Their podcast is amazing. So football is fun, and I like all these things, and I keep up with their relationship and I follow all the things on TikTok. And if you hate on it, man, okay, cool. I'm not forcing you to enjoy it.

It's wild to me how much time people spend on things that they don't like. Giving the people that like the things that they don't like. It's wild to me. Don't you have better?

No, they don't.

You love and let them find what you love. Then if you don't love Travis, Kelsey and the chiefs, okay, find someone, something you do love and learn about that and enjoy it.

Yeah. Come on. Get a life. Get a life.

Things they love and you love the things you love. And then we're all love their love.

It's okay.

We all love, love, love.

All right, well, let's keep it rolling here. This one. I've always kind of wondered where it came from. But the Rolling Stones. So, as if being a blues icon who influenced generations of musicians weren't enough, Muddy Waters also gave one of rock's greatest bands its name. The blues singer released his song Rolling Stone in 1950. And then twelve years later, the fledgling English band that was giving a phone interview when the journalists asked for the group's name, according to Keith Richards, it was Brian Jones who answered the Rolling Stones after glancing at a Waters record that was on the floor. And then the rest is history. That's crazy.

That's amazing that it was just like.

Oh, yeah, there one off, right?

That kind of makes me think of what is the name of the movie where the guy is being interviewed and all the Kaiser. So say, why can I not think of the name? This is ADHD, guys. I will just talk until I figure out the name.

There's a lot of movies and things like that where people, it's just off the cuff, like, kind of looking around, they come up with a song or a name of something, and then it's kind of like. And then the rest was history, right? Like Forrest Gump. Like, that's pretty much all of Forrest Gump, right. In situations like that anyway. But, yeah, I just love that. It was a completely nonchalant, like, looking around, happened to see something laying on the ground, this record by muddy Waters and was like, oh, yeah, rolling since. How about that? Without even discussing it with anybody else.

This is our name. And then you can't change it because now it's, like, out there.

Yeah, it's like Green Day with their name. They came up with the name because they spent literally the whole day just smoking weed. And then. So they called it Green Day. They had a green day because they used to be called sweet children was their original band name.

I don't like that as much as Green Day.

Right. So they came up with Green Day. One song, they wrote a song called Green Day. They decided to name the band. Then, you know, years later, Billy Joe Armstrong was like, that's the stupidest band name in the world. And I hate that I came up with that. But it's iconic, this coming from the.

Band that has an album named Dookie.

Dookie and the one before that, kerplunk. Anyway, yeah, I love it.

But it makes for a great story.

It does. It really does. And as much as they don't like their band name, I guess they've come to appreciate it because it is iconic. Everyone knows who Green Day. And same here. Rolling Stone. Totally nonchalant. Like, whatever happened to be sitting right there, it could have been a number of things. But there is something about that band name now that stands out. Rolling Stone. The term was around before the band, obviously, and before even muddy waters. Like, papa was a Rolling Stone. You've heard different things like that. Yeah, but now it's an iconic thing, and now it's a fashion trend. Like, everyone has a Rolling Stones t shirt with the mouse. All the stuff history, as they would say.

Awesome.

This next one, this is good. I did know about this as soon.

As I read this.

I'm like, oh, yeah, it makes sense, right? So Lady Gaga, in case you're wondering where it comes from. So Stephanie Joanne, Angelina Germanata was still going by her birth name until the age of 19, which, by the way, there's a podcast called page seven that I love listening to. And they used to do these things called pop history. And they would take these pop icons from film, music, whatever, and just kind of do like a edutainment kind of thing you learn about them. They did like a two parter on Lady Gaga and it is so good, her backstory, so interesting. Yeah, it's great.

Yeah. I find her fascinating too. So talented.

Right?

She's a great performer, she's talented musician, but she's also a great performer. And I think that we miss that.

She's going to be Harley Quinn in the next Joker.

Is she really?

And it's a musical, so yes, in a strange term events, the follow up to the Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix is going to be a musical and Lady Gaga will be playing Harley Quinn for that. So there's that. Look forward to.

So who created the name Lady Gaga? That has been up for debate.

Yes. So who coined the moniker Lady Gaga has been hotly debated. The singer's former producer and romantic partner claimed that he created the name, while Gaga herself stated that it came in more of an organic way. Still, everyone agrees that its inspiration came from Queen's 1984 song Radio Gaga. Lady Gaga is a passionate fan of the classic rock band, especially its flamboyant singer, Freddie Mercury. R-I-B love Freddie Mercury. What a great movie, too. The Freddie Mercury movie is so well done.

It's a great movie.

It is. That guy's wonderful. So, quote, freddie was unique, one of the biggest personalities in the whole of pop music, the pop star said, told the Scottish Daily Record in 2009 he was not only a singer, but also a fantastic performer, a man of the theater and someone who constantly transformed himself. In short, a genius. And she's right.

I agree 100%.

Yeah. And that's one thing I think that, as we have discussed lately, one of the things that I really like about certain bands is like their stage presence. Even if their music may not be your cup of tea, if you have a good time at their show, then it's worth. I would kill to see Queen live with Freddie Mercury. Like, what an experience that would have been.

Absolutely.

But just what a performer. Talented band. Yes, absolutely. But Freddie Mercury was much like Paramore and Haley Williams. Haley Williams is the Freddie Mercury of Paramore. No doubt.

Right. People come to see 100%.

Same with him. And for Lady Gaga, who's starting her career almost 20 years ago now, at this point, what a perfect way to pay homage to somebody who heavily influenced her. Right? I love it. I think it's great.

Really quick. So gaga, that has an important place in my heart because my daughter, when she met her great grandma. My grandmother, she couldn't get out great grandma. And it ended up being Gega. G-E-G-A. Well, my grandmother, who was 90 when my daughter was born, wrote handwritten letters all the time, and she always signed them gaga. She didn't know that we were, like, doing for us, it was gega. So my daughter has a whole bunch of letters that say, love gaga. And we think it's funny because they always thought of Lady Gaga.

Well, same with my. So my oldest sister's name is Greta, and when I was little, I couldn't say Greta. I said gaga. So I used to call her dad all the time, like, when I was little. Now it's not something that stuck. And honestly, thank God, because it would be weird for this 30 year old man to still refer to his sister as Gaga anyway. But as a kid, I used to call her that.

That's awesome, though. Look at this next one.

This is a good one. I know I didn't know this, but I'm sure that my sister in law, Christine, she would know this. Oh, yeah, she loves both of these bands, so she probably already knew this, but yes, Radiohead. So the future members of Radiohead met while attending boarding school. Their first incarnation went by the name on a Friday simply because their weekly rehearsals occurred on Fridays. Wow. The members of this fledgling group were inspired by talking heads, so much so that they at one point enlisted a brass section much like their idols with Tom York, Johnny Greenwood and company signed a record deal. In 1991, they changed their name to Radiohead, taken from the song Radiohead, which was featured on Talking Head's 1986 album True Stories. Nearly three decades and millions of album sales later, Head's frontman David Byrne inducted Radiohead into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. So it all comes around cool circle moment. We just talked about the talking heads a good bit on our burning down the house cover wars, right? Of which there's a follow up. Jeff said that he preferred the paramore version of that.

Interesting. I'm not sure I like this.

Next.

No, this one. But, Jeff, I don't know how I feel about this. I don't even know who this band. One of the two.

James definitely knows. So James know what I'm talking about with both of these, but he really likes sepultura, so. This brazilian band has sold more than 20 million albums across the globe, earning its reputation as one of heavy metal's fiercest acts. The group was founded in 1984 by brothers Max and Igor Cavallira. And while listening to the song dancing on your grave by motorhead. Max translated the lyrics to Portuguese. The word grave translated to Sepultura, and thus the band's name was born. Yeah, that's metal. That's so metal. Grave. You know what avenue means? Grave.

There we go.

Yeah, man. Cool lightning. Cool metal.

I'm digging that metal. I'm learning, like we've talked about, metal is growing. You're getting there more and more. And according to my daughter, I am not as cool as my partner because he listens to metal more than I do Taylor Swift. Exactly. So therefore I'm not cool enough. Although she doesn't listen to metal, she just thinks he's cool because he listens to metal. Because if you listen to metal, that immediately makes you cool.

I love the fact that she's like. I mean, it's not for me, but I think it's cool he listens to it.

Right? But I mean, gosh, we'll just take it because a 16 year old liking my 52 year old partner and they get along great. I will take it, even if it's just because he listens to metal and she thinks that that's metal. Cool.

It is metal. Very metal. All right, this next one's great. I don't know if you've heard of this first band. I know you've heard the second band.

Yeah.

But you'll come to it know at least another one of the incarnations. So at the drive in, I loved at the drive in. They were a great, like, post hardcore band from back in the day, but I did not know this, so. Best known for their single one arm scissor, a great song at the Drive in developed a loyal fan base in the early 2000s with their distinctive blend of punk and art rock influences. But their name came from a very different band, and that band is poison. The hair metal group's 1987 hit Talk Dirty to me features the lyrics. At the drive in. I never paid attention to that either. Anyway. Yes, at the drive in, in the old man's car Ford, excuse me, behind the bushes till I'm screaming for more at the drive in, liked the phrase and took it for their band name. The group later spawned two successful offshoots that would be the Mars Volta and Sparta. Both those bands are great, too. A lot of people have heard of the Mars Volta. Didn't realize that they had kind of, like, came like. Two of the guys came from this post hardcore band called at the Drive in, but that's where I knew about them first.

That's so cool. I love those things. Right? And how have I heard that song 500 times and I never heard? At the drive in?

Yeah, at the drive in. Well, I always thought it was in the old man's car, but apparently it's old man's Ford.

Misheard lyrics.

Misheard lyrics. We'll do another episode of that some point.

There are so many of them.

All right, this next band is great. This band reminds me of high school, like Myspace, all the fun things from 20 years ago. But this band is called hello, goodbye. And I did know this. So pop rock group from Southern California, hello, goodbye, no spaces. All one word that was the thing to do back in the day emerged in the early two thousand s. The band has performed at the Vans Warp Tour, south by Southwest, and festivals all over the world. Their 2006 hit song, here in your arms, great, wonderful song, remains the group's biggest hit, peaking at number 14 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart and earning platinum sales. The band's name was derived from the beatles 1967 hit hello, goodbye. That one's pretty obvious. We all knew that's where it came from. But this next one. So it's like a combination of two of my favorite bands, and I had no idea. I'm an idiot. I had no idea that this is where it came from. But bad Brains, man, I freaking love Bad Brains. A highly influential group out of Washington, DC, Bad Brains broke barriers as one of the first all black punk rock bands. Funk and reggae influences were also intertwined in their sound, but bad Brains never strayed from their punk rock roots. The group's name comes from the Ramon song Bad Brain. Singular, not plural. The track was released in 1978, right around the time that the band would become bad Brains, was beginning to. Would find its sound so cool. I never put the two together. I love the Ramones. The Ramons are one of my favorite bands, and I absolutely love bad Brains. I have really gotten into them over the last couple of years, and I love the different eras of that band, too, because they started out as a punk rock band. It was very much your run of the mill punk rock, but it was unique still. And it was different, too, because like I said, it was the first. Okay, one of the first. Not the first. There's another band that holds that title, but one of the first all black punk rock bands. It wasn't common back then.

No.

So coming out of the gate and already getting people's attention because you're like, wow, this is different. This is cool. And then started putting more reggae into their stuff, so they kind of slowed down a little bit more. Reggae. And then like, the 90s came and their sound kind of went to the funk metal kind of thing that was like red Hot chili Peppers and living color and faith no more. And all those bands that were starting to get big back then, that funk metal, bad Brains did that too, but just had no idea that they took their name from a Ramon song. I love that. Absolutely.

That's awesome.

Yeah. This is fun, right? I did know this, but it took me a long time to figure it out.

It makes sense as soon as I saw.

Right, right. This is one of those situations you're like, oh, that makes total sense. And I just never thought about South Africa. Did you know they're from South Africa?

I did not so much. I'm learning.

Just like Dave Matthews. He's from South Africa. Blows your mind, right? There you go.

Okay.

There you go. That's why you need me at your local.

Exactly.

For trivia night. So, yes. This south african band began its existence under the name of Saren Gas. Okay. As the group grew in popularity, its record label suggested the name change, and I think that was a good move. They decided upon Caesar, taken from the 1994 hit song of the same name by Baruka Salt.

I can hear it. Yeah.

So Caesar, the band went on to score a series of rock radio hits, including remedy, fake it, rise above this and broken. That's like one of my favorite Kara hooky songs. I like doing both parts. Featuring Amy Lee of Evanescence. In what can only be described as a meta moment, the rockers released a cover of their namesake see their song as part of their 2013 career spanning compilation.

I love that.

I love it, too. It's cool. And I think the bassist has see their tattoo like on his arm or whatever, and it's like really Anne's logo. Yeah.

That's really cool.

It's going to end badly for him if he ever gets kicked out.

Never write a name on your. Never get a tattoo of someone's name. And I say that and I have my children's names tattooed on me, but I feel like that's different because they will forever be my. Agree.

I think kids names is totally different. But your partner's name.

I'm going to totally embarrass Michael right now, but he probably won't listen to this all the way through to know. But he has his ex wife name tatooed on his arm. But it's like a 30 year old tattoo and it's on his forearm and it was all black, so it's faded, so it's hard to tell what it says. But I was like, that is how you should have known that was the end. Whenever you got the next ending of that relationship, by getting it tattooed on your body.

You have sealed your fate.

I know that that's not necessarily true for everyone. I just think it's funny. And those of you that don't know, I love tattoos. I love them, and I think you're much the same way.

And I think that my wife is getting a tattoo as we speak.

That is right. I love tattoos for so many reasons. And so on our first date, I was, like, looking at his tattoos, and he was, like, trying to hide that one, but it's on his forearm. It's kind of been, like this joke that you.

Okay, you're kind of twitchy. What's going on? Are you itching? Are you scratching?

Yeah. I'm like, why are you like, yeah, no, he didn't want me to know that. Got his ex's name. Tatoo.

I love that.

Awesome.

Okay, we've got three more here. And these are actually, like, debunked. So if you're, like, a conspiracy theorist and love things like this, who doesn't? I know, right? I can go down some rabbit holes on YouTube, but, yeah. So these next three, these are actually false and debunked band, or so they say. The bands are saying, no, that's not where they got their name. Some of it I believe, some of it, I don't. So this first one, I do not believe. I think they're full of crap. God smack. So, yes, new metal rockers God smack formed in 1995. Yes. That was just three years after grunge icon's Alison chains released their seminal dirt album, which featured a song called Godsmack. Still, godsmack frontman Sullyurna says that it is just a coincidence. Instead, insisting that his group's name came from an inside joke, he said, quote, I was making fun of somebody who had a cold sore on his lip, the singer told New York rock in 1989. The next day, I had one myself, and somebody said, it's a godsmack. The name stuck. I don't believe it. I think he's full of crap. I think he stole it from Alison chains. Point blank period.

Yeah. What's funny is, for the longest time, I thought the name of this band was gobsmack.

Gob. Oh, with a b. Yeah, because I'm gobsmack, right?

And so I thought that's what it was for a long time, right? And then I found out that it was Godsmack, and I was young and I was like, well, but they're not a very christian band. Why do they.

Right. That's another one of those names that very conservative christian parents heard, like, in the. Like, I refuse to let my child listen to a band called God Smack. Why would you want to smack God? And it's like, no, that's not where it comes from. Anyway, do your research.

And even if it was like, it's a God smack, like, getting the same whatever it is, kind of like God saying, like, hey, make fun of someone.

Right? Exactly.

Yeah. But I don't believe him.

I don't believe him either. I think he 100% took it from the Alice in chains because, no, that's not, like, one of their most popular songs, but it is off one of their most popular albums. Dirt is truly influential. There's so many good songs on there. So it's kind of like, how did you not hear it is my thing, especially being in that.

No, you heard it.

Exactly.

And maybe it wasn't the reason on the forefront, but it was there. I don't believe you. That you've had nothing to do with that.

True.

Sorry.

This next one, though, I believe him. So, fuel, what a great band. I love fuel. A lot of great songs. Back in the 90s. Actually got to see fuel one time at a festival, and they were so good. They played all my favorite songs because they had a lot of great ones back in the day. So it's been long rumored that fuel, the band behind hits like Shimmer and Hemorrhage, or sorry, got its moniker from the Metallica song of the same name, give me fire. Give me that much. But considering Fuel's first ep came out years before the Metallica track, that obviously is impossible. Instead, an early band bio explains that the name Fuel quote was chosen because the band based itself on energy and aggression. They were attempting to be as powerful and as aggressive as they could, and they saw the sun as a huge source of energy and an appropriate metaphor for the direction of the band's music. 100% believe that, obviously, because they're not time travelers that we know of. Maybe they are.

I don't know. I mean, I think that there's some time traveling happening.

I agree. There's too many Mandela effects going on for there not to be time travel present. I think that's where we need to start looking at it. Aliens are real.

They are.

Okay, so this next one, I'll let you decide. Panic at the disco emo pop band Panic at the Disco have been a mainstay on alternative radio for a good chunk of the new millennium thanks to hits like high hopes. Excuse me. Hey, look, ma, I made it. And I write sins, not tragedies.

Great songs. Great band.

Great band. Yep. Truly talented, folks. More so, Brendan Uri, because he's pretty much all that's left. Many fans assumed that the group's name came from the Smith song Panic due to its chorus of burn down the disco. However, Panic at the disco's frontman, Brendan Yuri, has stated that his band's name was actually taken from the lyrics to a lesser known song by the band name token. Excuse me, name taken the track, which coincidentally is also called Panic, uses the lyric panic at the disco in its second verse.

I believe this 100%. Right, because he's saying like, no. Yes, we got this name from a song, but it's the wrong song because you're looking at a more famous, more widely released song. So believe this, 1100%. I'm here for this.

Yeah, I believe that too.

What a great.

And that's it. That's ones. Go check out that article from Loudwire. There are plenty of other ones on there. We just kind of like hand selected a few of them that maybe people knew more. Yeah, but I love this kind of stuff. I love learning about where did this band name come from? Because you would not believe how many times I've gone through listening to albums, hearing a band name or even a song title and being like, where is that from? Where does that, yeah, what's the history? Especially bands in that area, that era, like Panic at the disco, like that early 2000 Emo, a lot of their band titles or their song titles came from movie lines. So you listen to it and you're like, I don't know what this means. You're turned on to something. Fallout boy did that a lot. Panic at the disco did that a lot. Day to remember I got into Darko. Like, I'd never watched Donnie Darko until I listened to a data remember album and it had a reference to Donnie Darko. And like Boondock Saints, I would have never watched Boondock Saints had it not been for that. And then a data member also had a song called. All right, so they have a song called I made of Wax Leary. What are you made of? That is from night of the museum. And then they have another one called Mr. Highways thinking about the end, which comes from a movie called the good sun. Have you ever seen that?

Oh, yeah, that's crazy movie. Crazy movie. Yes.

Macaulay Culkin, very dark.

That's a dark movie. And also a quite excellent movie. I'm not going to.

It's wonderful. But I would have never watched that movie. Yeah, it's got Macaulay Culkin and Elijah Wood when they were kids.

This is like little, little.

Yeah, this is fresh off of home alone. So they're. What a twisted movie to watch. But I would have never seen it had it not been for those song titles. So I love stuff like that where it's kind of like, oh, well, where does that. And you can tie it back. It's fun. I love this stuff. And hopefully you guys enjoyed that, too.

Yes. I think really quickly we should both look around and come up with a band. Come up with a name based on what we see.

Okay, I to. I'm going to go with. Hold on.

Okay.

All right. Here's my band name, and it comes from a coloring book that I have, and my band's name is crushing over Idris Elba. It's the name of my new emo punk band. Crushing over Idris Elba comes from my coloring book, which is.

That is so cool. I love that. Okay, since you got yours, I'm going to grab mine over here, which is. I was debating on two. Let's decide together which one. It's going to be great. So the one is fussing the book that she has. That's everything I never told you.

Cool. Okay.

Great band name, right? Yeah. Or this lovely sign that we haven't found a place for, which is with Grace surrounds us.

Wow. I like it. That's cool.

So I don't know. Maybe everything I never told Grace.

Yes.

I don't know.

And that's what I mean. It is so easy to just kind of throw something together and then it sticks. Even if you're like, well, that makes no sense, but it does. I could look at this water bottle. I have a Kashyyk sticker on here. I don't know if you're as big of a Star wars nerd. Kashyyk is where Chewbacca comes from. That's the planet. Um, so I could come up with a band name and it could be called traveling to Kashyyyk or the remains of Kashyyy or whatever.

Like something like this. Because it's like everything. I never told you. What if it was like everything? Never Grace?

Yes.

Right? Yeah. Never told Grace.

Who's Grace? We don't know.

Well, Grace is Michael's grandmother, so that song with Grace surrounds us, and then below that is his family. So that's why we have that. But, yeah. I love Grace in general, but all of the things that Grace is, not just grace the grandma, but Grace.

Well, I always think of Christmas vacation when they're like, they want you to say grace. And she's like, grace died 30 years ago. I love it. I love it. I never get tired of Christmas vacation.

Say grace. You never told me about Grace. Look, there's all kinds of. You can go wildly crazy with coming up with connections that don't actually exist until you start talking.

And then you can have people like Jeff Wisnitt, who has been doing AI generated images and doing, like, song lyrics. Now, what you should do, Jeff, if you're listening, is you should do band names and see if people can, because he's been playing this game on Facebook where he posts these pictures of AI generated images, and he's like, AI generated band names, right? Do band names and see if people get it. You're welcome.

Three days, Grace. Like, what is that? Yeah, what is that?

Right, exactly.

Look, I just totally brought it back around to grace. I am going to take over this thing for now. Right? I think it's some mental health minutes.

We're shifting things. We're changing things up on this show a little bit, especially with your background and everything. I think it's more appropriate for you to take over the mental health minute.

I am so excited about this because I love these quick little ideas of how you can improve your mental health and your physical health, too. Because I will always say, like, there is no difference between mental health and physical health. It is all health. But one of the things that I talk a lot about is intentional movement. Some might call it exercise, but not everyone loves exercise. Right. And with exercise, there's, like. Right, that, well, you got to set aside 30 minutes or an hour or whatever, but moving your body and getting your heart rate up significantly impacts your mental well being. And specifically for mental illnesses like ADHD, it really does help with your focus, and it's not a lot. You don't need a lot of exercise or intentional movement to have really significant impact. And it does not need to be all at one time. You don't need to do 30 minutes altogether. You can split it up. So one of my favorite things to do is to have a one song dance party or two song dance party, like just your favorite song, and you just go all out for just a few minutes, and then you get back to what you're doing. If you work from home, even if you work in an office, but people might look at you a little crazy, but you could get your whole office involved and have a dance break. But yeah, if you work from home, get up, put on your favorite song, whatever that song is that you're going to get down to and have a little dance party. But this intentional movement can also look like parking at the back of the parking lot and walking a little bit further in. So when I say intentional movement, you don't need to do a lot. You don't have to make it a whole thing. When can you move your body a little bit more? Or I remember, and this isn't a thing anymore, but during commercials, stand up and march or do a jumping jack or whatever. But commercials aren't really a thing anymore. We all fast forward through them or.

They'Re not skip ads.

But yes, I did ask them, how quickly can I get through this?

Wait 5 seconds.

Maybe that is, you don't skip the ad and you move around a little bit. But I love a solid dance party because music makes you feel better. I don't care, especially if it's music you love. And then moving your body, it will help so much with your mental well being, your physical well being, and just fun to dance and act a little goofy every now and then. Don't we all need that?

That's right.

So that is my mental health minute, is to move your body intentionally and have fun while you're doing it. Whatever works for you is what works.

Heck yeah.

There we go.

And we're going to implement that. So I'm going to try to do it. I've been sick, I've had the flu, been trying to get over a cough, whatever. But me and Ali both are like, we're trying to get more active, physical, get back into going to the gym in the mornings and things like that. But same thing I like to do. I have a standing desk at work. So every hour, hit the button, stand for a while, stand whenever we do record podcasts and stuff. Get up, walk around for a little bit.

I think if you're on a phone call that you don't need to be taking notes for or you're not on video, like walk, lapse around your room, back and forth or whatever. Now if you have to do a lot of talking, don't do so much that you're out of breath and then you're like, let me tell you about sales. Nobody's going to like that. Moving around a little bit never hurts. You love it. Go do a little dance party, a little walk, a little in the office. Yeah, exactly. Have fun with it.

I love it.

You have anything else, Blake, before we.

No, I think that's it. I think we're good to go.

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Yeah. Good luck finding that. And then right now I have the mental society. It's a podcast, doesn't have a lot of new episodes right now because I'm just going to be honest, my mental health has not had the brain space to come up with stuff on my own, which is why I love it here, because I don't have to make all the decisions by myself. But there's still some really great resources and information on that website. So check it out. Thementalsociety.com boom.

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We helped you take all this that we have given you, dear listener, and apply it to your life and go win some trivia. Again, if you want to share that free beer, we're okay with that.

And I would love for people to, while they're listening to this, find some random object, book, whatever, and share their band name based on the random object that they have found in their environment. That would bring me great joy.

Yes. Hit us up. Let us know what your band name is simply by telling us what you looked around and came up with. I love it.

Yes.

Right. Well, thanks again, everybody, for listening. And always remember, when words fail, music speaks. Goodbye, everybody.

Thank you all.

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