Ep.318 – Tina Fireflly & Einar Einarsson from Beautiful Skeletons talk Music, Touring Life and More!

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Deep dive into band biographies, and much, much more. This is the Widow Music speaks podcast with Blake Mosley, James Tides, and Amanda Dolan. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Wooden Words Fail Music speaks podcast. Where, oh, where are we fighting pressure with the power music? I am your professional handicap toast James Cox, and some people think I am scooter from the Muppets, but that's, you know, that's me here or there. Yeah, because I sound like them, you know? So, are you ready for some b's? And I'm not talking about that b's. I'm talking about beautiful skeletons, which I have the lead singer here with me, and her name is Tina Firefly. And we're going to find out more about that name because it's awesome. So let me tell you about it first. Flotida Firefly is an accomplished and versatile vocalist who has honed her craft for over 15 years. Her extensive experience in a diverse range of music genres, spanning from jazz to metal, has given her a unique ability to connect with audiences from all walks of life. As a lead singer for beautiful skeletons, Tina has not only captivated audiences with powerful vocals, but has also had the opportunity to open for renowned acts such as NziG, malasmi, saliva, and the loyal order. With a commitment to her art and passion for creating memorable experiences, Tina is a true force to be reckoned with in the music industry. How are we doing, Miss Tina?

It was quite an intro. Thank you.

Hopefully that's all right, because sometimes, you know, I get them from Wikipedia and they're not. Right.

Yeah. Thank. Well, I mean, if that's what's in Wikipedia about me, then we're on track, right? I'm doing good. Thank you for having us on.

You're welcome. So, you are. So, your name is Tina Firefly?

Yep.

And I kind of want to think that's not your actual last name.

No. Okay. For sure.

Yeah. Okay. Because I remember. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but, um, if you were like me, you used to get outside and chase fireflies, right? Is that where came from?

No, actually, oddly, um, I. In the first couple bands that I ever had, I had a stalker in, so I ended up changing my name just to, I mean, for. It's best practice anyway. I've never seen a firefly. Believe it or not, I was born and raised on an island. We don't have fireflies there. But I always wanted to name one of my projects zombie Firefly. And I don't know, just one day I was sitting around trying to figure out, you know, some sort of stage name, and it just popped into my head seeing a firefly. But, yeah, oddly, no one's ever asked me if I've ever seen a firefly.

I have not really, really favor and rampant and good old Virginia, because I live all over the world. Well, I lived in the Philippines, Virginia, Florida, you know, because my dad's a retired colonel in the air force, so I remember at nighttime in Virginia, there used to be a whole lot of fireflies just lightening up the dark sky and, like, it's great.

You know, that's a bucket list thing for me. I would love to see that person.

Really? Oh, well, go to Virginia. You know, they're, they're rampant over there. So where are you located now? I mean, like, where are you?

Yeah, we're actually out of the Pacific Northwest, sort of, like, in the Vancouver, Washington area. And I always have to kind of, like, explain, not Vancouver, Canada. Not Vancouver, BC, Vancouver, Washington. So Pacific Northwest. We're on the west coast. We love it here.

Okay. Yeah. Because I'm in the east coast, and sometimes, like, like, I've been like, I'm in South Carolina, and hardly no, no big bands come to South Carolina, so I have to go to, yeah, it's far between, but Gore is coming over here in July, so I'm going to see Gore.

Oh, those guys are awesome. Yeah, I actually, I got to meet them, like, way, like, 20 years ago. We opened them. I was in, like, a goth industrial band in Portland at the time, and I was so scared to meet them because I was so scared. I was like, who are these guys? I didn't know who they were. I didn't know what they would be like. And they were, like, the sweetest guys ever. They were like, come next. Come on, smoke some weed. And I was like, oh, my God, really?

Yeah. Who is going to say no to gore? Smoke weed, right?

They were just the nicest guys, and I saw how nervous I was and they were just like, went out of their way to, like, be really nice to me, which I thought was.

I saw Gore in when? 2007, I believe. I think that was their beyond hell tour. That was the best show ever.

Ever.

I don't care who you are. They put on a banger over show. You know, those guys.

Those guys kill it and they kill it when they're not comfortable. I mean, it looks cool as shit. You know, it's not comfortable. Right. So it's like, respect.

Yeah. Big time. Big time. Because sometimes, you know, those costumes, it gets harder than. You know what?

Yep. Exactly.

Yeah. Um, I do want to talk. Okay. So before I ask you about your, um, your whole career right here, um, I got to know a couple of things. So I always ask who you like more between which band? I'm going to give you two bands and. And say who like, who you like more.

Okay.

So I'm always curious about these two. About these four bands, you know, I'm going to put them head to head.

Okay.

So we got Deftones or incubus.

That's hard, dude. That's. Oh, man. Okay. Who do I like more? Just like, overall sound or are we talking about, like, music?

Yeah, just. Yeah, broad range, you know?

Okay, so I'm going to say incubus.

Okay.

Let me tell you that that's a painful decision, because I love both bands.

I love that. Yeah.

But I'm gonna say incubus. And that's probably because I listened to incubus more growing up than I did the Deftones. And really because I was just very obsessed with singing along with Fungus among us, which was probably my favorite incubus album. And the tone of their lyrics, the way that he writes his lyrics, I always kind of aspire to, like, there was two main sources, Maynard and then the gentleman, the rights for incubus. And they both have a very similar style, which I really respect. They tell a story with a general theme that fits anybody's life, which I think is great.

I think we have somebody here with us. It's our. It's in our guitars. Is that it? Yeah, he's here. I can bring him in?

Okay. Yeah, absolutely.

Bring him in. Let me get rid of this. Hey. Hey.

There he is.

How you doing? I did not expect you, but welcome to the show.

I'm doing good. I can barely hear you guys.

Oh, are you in a car? Right now?

Yeah, it's a little bit better.

Yeah.

All right.

I'll probably end up turning my camera off here in a little bit, because I'm gonna drive.

Okay.

So ain'ter might just be lurking. I don't know if he's.

Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah.

Yeah. So we were. So I just asked Tina if, uh, which band does she like more death tones or ink? Miss, which one do you do you rock with the most?

Oh, deftones.

I knew he was gonna say that.

Not that I don't like incubus. They got some really good, good tunes, but just definitely more drawn towards the. The dip tone sound.

Yeah, that incubus tickets, like, fly off the shelf, you know, within, like, 30, 40 minutes. You know, big time. Yeah. So, okay, so the second question for y'all is either. Now, this is the most asked question, and I want to know from you all, Megadeth or Metallica, you bring it back to, you know, to the old school, right?

Oh, my lord. Megadeth or Metallica? No, you go first. You. I want to hear what your answer is.

Megadeth.

Megadeth. Why?

You know, I had a chance to see Megadeth in 1987, you know, shortly after, you know, a couple of few years after Bibim Stan had left Metallica. So he's kind of the underdog. And I don't know, I was just more drawn towards his aggression, even though, you know, Metallica. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Metallica fan and always love them, but, you know, staying with this little edge here a little bit faster, he was angrier, and I was kind of, you know, as a teenager at the time, and I was angry, too.

Angrier. I love it. I love it. Tina, how about you?

I'm gonna out myself here. People are gonna hate me and unfollow me. I don't like either band.

Okay, yeah, but that's fair enough. I'm not gonna do that.

Just from a singer's perspective. I just. I never got into either. But then again, I come from a slightly different generation, right? So, like, by the time I came into the scene listening to Megadeth and Metallica, everyone was arguing about Napster and peer to peer software. So I kind of just, like, automatically was like, well, why is Metallica throwing such a stink about this? I can't afford to buy their. Why do they care if I fucking download an mp3? You know what I'm saying? So that's the first time I ever even heard of Metallica. And then when I came to the US, like, to the actual continental us. Then I started hearing about Megadeth and, I mean, I don't know, just neither band really caught on with me. Yeah, well, I'm gonna get death threats here after this.

No, you're not. We love you. We still love you. Even though you're all.

Even though I'm misguided, right?

Yeah, but no, but for me, it was always Metallica when I was like 1617. And then in the late years it was. It's always been mega. Not for better, for consistency, you know, they release album every year or every two years, whereas Metallica five, six years do have to wait. And that just drives me wild. I don't understand. And, uh. Yeah, so, yeah, uh, oh, yeah, so, okay, so we. Tina said incubus and she doesn't like any metallica or megadeth, you know, I guess that's fine. I don't know. So right here, you know, so. All right, so the first song I want to back up. Back up. Okay, so, Tina, I want to talk to you about your voice. Your voice is totally amazing. And yes, I agree with him. Is it for that? Ainar.

Pronounced a nar.

A nar. Okay, I'm so sorry about that. So ain't. I think the majority of the people who check out your music is going to agree with me that your voice is truly amazing. Right, so did you know that your voice, that you could. I mean, like, like, did you practice with your voice or did it just come naturally for you to sing like this?

Oh, yeah, no, I was the ugly duckling for music. Like, I played piano, violin and all these instruments growing up, but I couldn't sing with until high school. I want to say I was a late bloomer for singing and I don't know if that's just like, I got my voice in late or what, but, yeah, it really wasn't until then that I started realizing, you know, like, I would rather sing and play. And then that went from singing and playing to I would just rather sing and just concentrate on that. So, yeah, I mean, it was, it was late in life, but it definitely came right around that time. As far as, like, screaming and growling, those are all things that I had to teach myself as a kind of evolutionized as a musician.

So. So how long did it take you to learn how to growl like that?

I would say even in our, like, he's seen, like, the evolution of my, like, dirty voice or whatever as we started. And I've always been in a huge fan of ginger and kitty and some of these females that, like, pave the way for the rest of us, kind of trying to find that niche where we can also do the same thing. I would say since I started beautiful skeletons maybe about five, six years ago now, I've really made, like, a very focused effort to scream and growl properly and work that into the dynamics of my current range. And it's been difficult, but I'm finally falling to a groove now where I've kind of, like, naturally figured out how to do a lot of the lower stuff, you know, so it gets better over time, but I'd say in the last four or five years, I've really, like, honed in on it.

Yeah. So you said you taught yourself, right?

Yeah.

So I guess so. So anybody can learn how to sing. It just takes time and practice, right?

Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I get that. I get that all the time. Like, oh, I never sang. My voice is terrible. And, like, you know, the reality is, like, most people think that because they've never. They haven't spent enough time listening to a recording of their voice. Everybody who records their voice is like, oh, that's what I sound like. You know, everyone gets all freaked out by it.

Yeah.

And then that's the biggest obstacle for anyone who's, like, recorded themselves. They're like, oh, I don't want to hear myself. You just have to get over that and just keep listening and listening and listening until you're. You're okay with the sound of, you know, your own voice. And then from there, it's up to you whether you want to, like, sort of figure out where you are as far as pitch goes and all of that good stuff.

So, ainar, let me ask you some questions here, too. So you are a great guitarist because I listen to most. I love the song power driver. That's amazing. Oh, so, no, dude. But, um, power driver is, like, one of the. The best songs. But I think from y'all because I love the drum intro. That's great.

And.

And it collaborates with the guitarist slow. Well, which is you, you know. Um, so how long. How long did you play the guitar for? Or, like, did you find in, like, school or something?

I started playing guitar when I was about, like, 14. I started playing drums before that. Did that for a while. I still play drums today, but not, there'll be as much as, uh, as I play guitar. But, uh, yeah, it was, you know, just gravitated towards music and how the guitar just kind of, you know, you land on what you're. What you enjoy doing. You know, I never really learned. Never really stopped learning. Uh, you know, there's never that. That moment of, oh, yeah, I've mastered this. It's like, no, there's a lot left. The, you know, master and, you know, just the music keeps. Keeps, uh, keeps rolling out of me. So as long as I'm having fun.

There'S not enough time in the day. Like, the. The moment that we play, I mean, we could sit down and write, like, a million new songs a week. It's insane. We have to, like, put a schedule ahead of them. Like, no, we're not jamming today. Like, write anything else right now.

Right, right. Yeah. So, I read in the lid bio that you opened for in the mountain, so beautiful skeleton opens room.

Yes.

Okay, nice. So, Adar, how many questions did you ask him about the guitar?

Oh, none.

None? Really?

No, just, you know, it was just. It was an honor to be, you know, part of his, you know, that experience. And I didn't. I didn't really ask any questions directly related to anything.

Yeah, I think we talked to him for two minutes at the very end of the tour. We. Yeah, we pretty much wait because there was us in another band, and so, I mean, it was, you know, tour. It was like, go, go, go. And we were all just really focused on making sure that our performances were good. And it really wasn't until the very last show that we were able to actually go in and meet him, shake his hand and stuff like that. It was fairly brief, and really, he didn't say much, but.

Yeah. Yeah. Cause, like, I kind of get that. Got that vibe from him because a lot of people saying he's not a nice guy. But then again, I mean, it's time and place. I mean, come on now. You know, everybody can't. You know, a lot of fans forget that.

You know, I mean, he just. He has a routine for a reason. Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, one of the things that I do do recall, I mean, that, you know, it was. He was watching the opening bands, and, you know, you could tell it. You know, he enjoyed, and he made some comments to Tina and, you know, gave her some compliments, and. And that was, for me, I mean, that was the thumbs up. We're not getting thrown off the tour. And so, yeah, that was.

So.

I would have talked about saliva sometimes, and I read that you were founded by well found and signed by the drummer, Paul Crosby. Now, was that before or after you toured with them?

So we didn't tour with saliva. We just opened. They had a local show that took place here in Portland, which is right around the corner from Vancouver, Washington. So we opened for them that night along with a couple other local openers. But actually, before that is when we had signed a management deal with Paul. And I think by the time that we actually opened for saliva, Paul had actually stepped away from. From saliva to start the management role that he was just coming into. So they actually had a different drummer that night. But, yeah, I think we inked the deal with him somewhere in, like, 20. No. Was that 2019, 2020? Or, like, when was that? 21 22.

Uh, that show is in 20 22 22.

Yeah, yeah.

Real fairly new.

Yeah. And at the time, he had just stepped away from that band to focus on his management.

Right. And I. I guess y'all are the first place for him. Designer. Or have they been doing this?

I think he's been doing it for a while. I think we were, like, three or four on his roster at that point. He's got more people now. Well, yeah, but, yeah, I think at the time, there was, like, maybe four or five groups that we were aware of that we reached out to just to kind of get a feel.

Okay. Um, I. I also like. What? Love this song. Letters to a narcissist. That is our narcissist.

Oh, yeah.

I want to know if this was, like, from a personal point of view or it's just, like, a common. You know.

So it's important for me as a singer when I write, because I generally write all the lyrics. It's important for me to be able to draw from personal experience, but I tend to try and generalize the message, so it's not super specific. I want the person who's hearing it to go like, oh, that. Is that for me? Did you guys write this song about me? You know, I want people to hear it and relate to it and make it fit their situation. So, yes, it was based on a specific set of events and a specific set of people who I will not name, but not either. But it doesn't matter, really, ultimately, who inspired it, because we all know several. At least several people like that in our daily lives. So I just need it to be, like, the anthem for people who recognize that that personality type exists. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Okay, agreed. Yeah. Because, um, I think that we've all run across one of these people, uh, within our lives, and they can take our mental health and, like, drown down, you know? So we need music to bring it back up, you know, and that's. That's where you all come in. So it's good stuff, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

All right, so, as the woman, two beautiful skeletons, how has your identity as a female lead singer to evolve over the years, and what unique challenges and opportunities has the role presented to you?

Yeah, that's a really great question. Over the years, I've struggled with different things as a fronts. Woman versus a frontsman. I mean, there are some people who are on very specific sides of this issue. There are some women that are like, absolutely. Like, female fronted is not a genre I don't want to identify as it. There's no point in, you know, trying to be in its own special category. And then there are those that are like, this is a marginalized section of fronts, people, and we should try to put that in front of most people who are noticing yada. And I kind of. I kind of fall in the middle of that. I do feel like it's underrepresented. There's lots and lots of wonderful fronts. Women who maybe don't make it in front of enough people. But I also think it has more to do with marketing and drive the actual music that you're producing. Are you any good? Because just because you have boobs doesn't mean that you have a great voice and that you can perform. So, I mean, I feel like all those things influence it. And I personally have struggled, like, from a, like, a self identity perspective about, you know, how is it that. Sorry, my son's calling.

That's fine. That's fine.

How is it that I'm, you know, like, how do I compete against all these other fronts? Women who I feel like are these, like, knockout, gorgeous amazonian women, six foot eight, you know, like, we're talking, like, arch enemy, you know, and some of these just insanely gorgeous girls. And I always pit myself against that. I always compare myself, and I think that's not really a front woman thing, is just a woman thing. So I do struggle with what I look like sometimes. I'm always bitching about the fact that I wish I could just throw on some pants and a shirt and a plaid jacket and just get up there with zero makeup and just kill it. And sometimes I do. But a lot of times, I do feel like I need to get more, like, gussied up. I do need to, like, stand out. I do need to put on my stupid false eyelashes and all this other shit. So it's. It's a role that evolutionizes with time. And as I become more confident in what I'm doing, it's kind of hit or miss. If I'm going to care about makeup that night. I don't know, you know, but I don't know. The guys have a different perspective on it. And I've met a lot of fans who are just like, I just enjoy listening to the dynamics of female vocals in metal. It's not necessarily about, like, giving women more time in the spotlight. I just, there's people who just prefer having a dynamic range.

Right. Well, I want to get a opinion on this, too, because I think that the majority of people now, like, welcome women to be the front of a band because I love y'all guys, you know, beautiful skeletons. I love arch enemy. I love Maria brink in this moment. I mean, but me, I just love to like, like the female boys better than the male boy. I don't know. You know, so.

And I hear that a lot from people who specifically seek out metal bands with female fronts. Women. Some, some people just prefer to have the dynamics and sound and, and I get it. So, I mean, for those people, hey, I'm here. Yeah.

Yeah. So, ainar, what, what are your thoughts about bands that have a female front instead of a male voice? I don't know.

You know, for me, I guess it's just kind of falls into the same melting pot.

I don't know.

I really don't see it as, like a separate genre, like Tina was saying, or, or, you know, you know, competition. And I get it. You know, a lot of people are like, oh, metal. Metal is metal. And that's for, you know, you need to have a guy up there. But then you got, you know, you know, Tina does a great job of going back and forth from just, you know, kick ass, quality singing. And then, you know, next thing you know, she's growling at the storm. It's like, whoa, look at that.

Right?

Yeah.

And it's a really good balance because I think I tend to gravitate more towards the singing part of it. I think it just, it complements our sound. But, you know, at the same time, you know, I'm just as big of a fan of ginger and spare box. And, you know, hail storm is one of my, one of my go tos right now. And, uh, you know, by the end of June, when you look at female, you know, fronted, uh, music groups, you know, look, look at the heart, you know, one of my favorites going back to the, to the eighties, and, uh, you know, they're still going at it.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I totally forgot about spirit box. And you can, I think your name is Courtney, right?

Courtney. Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I like she's bucket list for me.

I really got into music when a friend told me about her, because I did not know about anything about the spirit box until I found her through a friend. And I. And I'm in love, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, she's right.

And I would tell you the one thing I love about Courtney, I mean, other than how talented she is, I mean, you could put on one of her live shows, and she's, like, running out there in tennis shorts and a shirt and sneakers. Or you could tune into a live show, and she's out there in, like, jeans and, like, you know, like, mom jeans and socks and just, like, whatever the hell she threw on, because tour life is rough, and I really respect that about her. She doesn't have to get, like, totally done up and just be, like, absolutely dressed to the nines every time she comes out to play. And I, like I said, that's one of the things that I struggled with. So I really love when I see fronts. Women do that where they're either going to be, like, smoking hot when they come out, if they feel like, you know, dressing themselves up, but they're also comfortable going out and just on the pose.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree with you because, I mean, it's. It's their decision whether they want to come out looking, you know, dressed it up or just like. Like you say, mom jeans, you know? I mean, yeah, nobody's perfect, you know? But, um, you did mention something that I. That I want to talk to you. Talk to you about tour life. Um, do you all have. Do you all have a. Like, a. Like, a van that you pile in, or do you have, like, a. Like a. Like an actual bus bus?

Well, the goal one day, is to get a bus bus, right? Yeah, we don't. We don't currently have one. I hope one day that's. That's different. We do have a trailer, and we've done a couple tours. The first one we did with ingbae, we actually did the bus thing. The second one we did the truck he's actually driving right now, plus the trailer with all the gear. That was pretty rough. So we've done it both ways, but we don't really have a dedicated vehicle necessarily to it. And I think it really depends on where we end up going and then for how long and who we're going with. Tour bus prices are astronomical these days, and I get it because the cost of gas is insane. And then if you don't get in the beginning of touring season before all of the big guys start renting out all the tour buses for the summer, then you're kind of stuck with whatever's left over.

Right. So who has the dirtiest laundry at the end of the week? I'll be your new.

Literally or figuratively?

Let's go with literally. No, I've been to most guys. Right.

I would probably say that, like, maybe Jason. He's not on here, but if you'll watch this, Jason's our base player.

Okay.

And, uh, he also is a gym rat, too, so I'm gonna say that he probably.

Well, I mean, if you go to the gym, you obviously gotta win it outright. And I guess. Yeah, that's. I guess washer and dryer machines are. If you went far between on the road.

Listen, loves truck stop. Truck stops in general. It's totally your friend as a touring musician. Got showers, you got food, you got, I mean, like, laundry, all of that.

Right, right. Which is great.

Which is great.

All right, so, um. So speaking of tours, long tours can take a toll on physical and mental health, which is what we talk about here. What do you do to stay healthy and energized during extensive tours?

You want to go first on that? What do you do to stay healthy.

And energized for, especially on your mental health?

Oh, God. Sleep is so important. Getting good quality sleep, for me, that's a priority. And just having that alone time, just kind of, whether it's after a show or. Or bored, have. I don't know, I need that. I get overly stimulated if there's too much stuff going on. Usually before a show, there's tons of stuff going on, you know, and eating healthy, that's key. On the road, it's easy to gravitate towards corn dogs and burritos, you know, but I think, like, when we went on the road with ing bay, we did a lot of planning and we had, you know, fridge and cooler, and we're able to bring fresh fruit, oatmeal, and, you know, live relatively healthy.

Yeah, I mean, there is a lot of stuff like that you can't avoid because you're just in a hurry or there's nothing else that's around that's open by the time you're out. And you can actually, like, leave the bus or your vehicle and go find some food. If you're lucky, the venues have food, but generally the venue food is going to be like, pizza bar food, or whatever. And after some time, you're just like, yeah, I don't need any of that. I need a salad or a steak or rice teriyaki. I mean, like, you know.

Yeah, yeah. But that's gonna be some breakfast champions. Like a frozen burrito, right? Man, I love those frozen burritos. You know?

Well, and we all have different issues. Like, I would never try to eat anything that had beans right before. You know, I don't want to be, like, dropping the guys behind me, you know? So I gotta say, like, I. We have to think about that stuff. Like, what we know is going to irritate our stomach right before we go on or, you know, on a bus. You don't have really, the ability to go to the bathroom. I mean, you do, but definitely you want to try and go somewhere else if you can. So, I mean, those are the little things that you really don't think about when you're on tour. You're like, oh, I just had this burrito. Now I need to take a massive sh. And I'm farting up a storm, and everyone is, like, hating on me right now because they can't escape my burrito farts.

Oh, well. And I was like, yep, that's true.

Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Okay, so let me ask you about this. So this is the second record label that you've been on with wormhole death label. Is that correct? Or so worm the whole desk. Is that like a. Like a mostly independent? Because I. You know, me. I mean, I've never heard of it before.

Yeah, it's. It's actually. They're a fairly long established label. They do. They're kind of like, I want to say, like, more like a stepping stone. Like, definitely not necessarily, like, fully independent, but not major label either, which we wanted something in the middle like that. They're based out of Italy, but they have an office in LA, and then they have an office in Japan, and they have contacts everywhere. So, I mean, the first label that we were with was technically a label that was created for distribution through Paul. And so essentially, when that was done, we were kind of thinking about, okay, do we want to go with the label? Like. And we sort of were thinking that after a while, we would probably try to have him shop us to some labels. But wormhole actually reached out to us. They head home with us. Yeah, they saw Kraken, I guess, and some other things, and they reached out to us. You know, bands get so much spam these days. So I was like, I don't know, this looks. But then after sort of following the chain and seeing if it was legit, I was like, oh, this is legit. Yeah. And that's how that started. I was, like, shocked. I was like, oh, okay. So, you know, we sent the information to Paul, and then he kind of helped facilitate that whole thing.

I wonder what your. What your thought process was. Created the name for Worm, the whole death.

That's no idea.

Yeah, yeah. You kind of, like, I don't know about this fable, but we'll check it out and see. Right? Yeah. So. All right. Uh, so we have one more question, and this is to both of you. Um, this is probably the hardest question I have for you all today, which is the majority of the responses that I get from. For past musicians, an artist, band, or song that you can think of that you can hear right now, but you can't tell me, Ainar or. Or anybody, how mixing feeling deep inside your soul.

Whoa.

Yeah, that's heavy.

Okay, let me make sure I understood that. An artist, song, or band that touches.

My soul and you can't tell me or in our. How it makes you feel deep inside. It's so ingrained in you and goes for inar. So I don't know who wants to go first.

So what do you think? Or do you want me to say, like, the song name?

You can say anything you want. This open end. Yeah, it's a totally open ended.

Okay, well, this is going to be really weird, but yentl by Barbra Streisand.

Okay.

That song is probably one of the first songs that I ever heard that I was like, dude, I want to sing like that. Which is really weird now that I'm doing an interview for a metal band. But one of my earliest influences was Berm Streisand, believe it or not. Yeah. When I heard gentlemen, that was. I don't know. It's weird. That was the song that I was like, dude, I could. I want to sing this song. And every time I hear it now, it just makes me think about, like, the younger me, realizing that, you know, no matter what my parents said, I really wanted to just be musician. So how about you? Nar.

Yeah.

I'll give you one guess.

Megadeth.

Ooh, close.

I really don't know.

I think the one. The one band that it's continuously, you know, if you got to ask yourself, the question is like, okay, if you got a narrow. All the bands that you like down, you know, if you had choose one CD or one artist to listen to for the rest of your life, the Alice in chains, you know, hands down.

Oh, fuck, yeah. Yeah.

Nutshell is one of my, you know, I think it's such a powerful song, you know, and it's all in the eyes of the. Of the, you know, of the listener, basically, how you interpret that song. But just the emotion in the writing and just the arrangement of the song, I think it's just brilliant because it's so simple, but with the harmonies and the, you know, just the simplicity of an acoustic guitar and a little bit of electric, uh, I'm just drawn to that. So Jerry Cantrell all the way.

Yeah, yeah. Cuz that chill is the number one song I get from, like, the majority of Alison King fans is like, that's it, you know, I mean, and that's it, you know, but yeah, so I thought, I totally get in and Jerry control. I'm a very nice guy, cuz I met him twice and he was all right, you know. Hey, sure, we can take a picture, you know. You know, extremely nice. Because I saw with, um. I haven't seen him with Lane. I saw him with William Duvall and they killed it. Killed it automatically with him.

I did get a chance to see the original lineup in 93.

Really?

Yes. At the Salem Armory. It was. Yeah, it was amazing.

Yeah, they put on a great show. Long show. They went on for 3 hours, but I didn't care because it was the change, you know? I mean, come on now. All right, so. So that's our last question for y'all. Um, oh, and for anybody who is listening to the show right now, um, you can visit beautiful skeleton at YouTube, Instagram. I think you're on tick tock, correct?

Yes.

Because I'm not understanding Danny TikTok at all.

Are you understand TikTok?

I'm 44, and I'm still trying to figure that out, you know?

Yeah, I mean, I like TikTok. I like. I just like the, you know, like every american. I just like this super quick, consumable content. Yeah.

We'Ll see. For me, it's hard to get, like 15 seconds of what I want to say. And now the majority of people, since fans are so low, you know, I mean, you know, I don't know. It's all weird. It's all new to me. But I love Instagram. Instagram's great. And speaking of Instagram, you can go to billet beautiful skeletons band and look them up. They got amazing videos on their. On their YouTube channel. Beautiful skeletons band. And you're on Facebook and a lot more of the platforms, right?

Yeah, pretty much everywhere. Spotify, Apple Music, Google, and what else, people? Skeletons.com, Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest. I mean, look it up. We literally try to permeate everything so it's easy for people to find us.

It sounds like you're overtaking the world, which is awesome, dude. Yeah. So, yeah, we honestly thank you for coming back on.

We.

We always welcome you to come back on the show.

Thank you.

Whenever we want to talk about music again, you know, just hit us up.

And I appreciate that. Thank you so much for having us on today.

And for everybody else that's listening, always remember when word spell music speaks. Bye, guys.